random library: Request for Carter Tazio Schonwald (@cartazio) to step down as maintainer with immediate effect

[Zemyla]

So you're saying that the fact that there's basically a civil war and
pandemic going on is no excuse to respond to e-mails. And you're calling
his behavior "tyrannous" when there are literal tyrants shooting tear gas
at civilians.

I gotta admit, this makes me disinclined to believe you're acting in good
faith. Sometimes shit happens to good people, and someone who can't show a
little compassion in these (pardon the cliche) unprecedented times is not
someone I want anywhere involved in package management.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020, 02:18 Fumiaki Kinoshita <fumiexcel at gmail.com> wrote:

> For example video call is not a great method for me because of the
> following reasons:
>
> * I'm not a good English speaker (especially I sometimes have difficulty
> with colloquial American English)
> * I live in a different timezone
> * I prefer open communication
>
> Although it's totally fine that you have a preference, I have no
> doubt that core library maintenance should have more acceptance and
> transparency.
>
> I hesitated talking about this because issues might get
> locked/edited/deleted, and the participants might get accused of being
> "thick headed assholes" again like you did in
> https://github.com/haskell/vector/issues/267#issuecomment-579588727, but
> I must say:
> Frankly, it feels extremely unfair that you ask us to focus on "technical
> matters" (which excludes maintenance for some reason) only, while you
> frequently use non-technical reasons (your diseases and the situation in
> New York) as an excuse. Your asthma doesn't rub me in the wrong way; your
> tyrannous behaviour does. With all due respect I suggest you not to use
> CLC privileges to cope with your personal stresses.
>
> 2020年6月5日(金) 7:29 Carter Schonwald <carter.schonwald at gmail.com>:
>
>> and more details to follow in a few days, i'm pretty fried, there was a
>> police shooting this morning 1 block from my aparment plus a whole mess of
>> stuff going on in lowermanhattan where i live most of the time this week
>> thats got me on edge and stressed out of my gourd.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 6:24 PM Carter Schonwald <
>> carter.schonwald at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i've added a few folks at uploader/contributor bits, and this is
>>> generally something all core libraries need. i really prefer discussion via
>>> video call or voice chat or 1-1 neutral language..
>>>
>>> yesterday i was pretty laid up with some pretty bad asthma etc and
>>> allergy drugs, and I'm sorry if that rubbed you the wrong way .
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:50 AM Profpatsch <mail at profpatsch.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> chessai . <chessai1996 at gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>> > Yes, please contact me about these concerns. I am reachable via email
>>>> at
>>>> > chessai1996 at gmail.com.
>>>>
>>>> Great, I’m looking forward to seeing this matter resolved swiftly.
>>>>
>>>> I am a fan of discussing community matters openly, but everybody can
>>>> of course decide whether they want to speak up publicly or privately
>>>> talk to a trustee.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 12:24 PM David Feuer <david.feuer at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I urge everyone to direct all further comments on this topic to the
>>>> >> current chair of the CLC. There is nothing to be gained from public
>>>> >> discussion of a "personnel" matter.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 10:03 AM Profpatsch <mail at profpatsch.de> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I posted this comment on the thread of
>>>> >>> https://github.com/haskell/random/pull/62#issuecomment-638088258
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Since it was deleted and the comment thread locked by Carter,
>>>> >>> I am escalating this request to the mailing list, where it cannot be
>>>> >>> deleted.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Profpatsch <notifications at github.com> writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> > @cartazio Please take even a fleeting look at
>>>> >>>
>>>> https://github.com/idontgetoutmuch/random/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed,
>>>> >>> notice the amount of discussion and the timeline.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > This is the full-time work of a team of half a dozen of experts,
>>>> >>> probably breaching one man-year of effort, easily.
>>>> >>> > It cannot just be discarded out of hand.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > I have been following the discussions (spread over mailinglists,
>>>> issue
>>>> >>> trackers and elsewhere), and I propose you hand over maintainership
>>>> of
>>>> >>> `random` as a base package.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> A parallel issue with relevant discussion can be found at
>>>> >>> https://github.com/haskell/random/pull/61
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I am writing this email from my personal account, because I fear for
>>>> >>> the health of the Haskell ecosystem, and I think Carter’s behaviour
>>>> is
>>>> >>> extremely detrimental to it.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I think a lot of other people feel the same way, so I encourage you
>>>> to
>>>> >>> add your voice publicly.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ~ Profpatsch
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