[xmonad] gnome theming is destroying my life

[Carsten Mattner]

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Carsten Mattner
<carstenmattner at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Jochen Keil <jochen.keil at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> On 13.09.2012 17:15, Brandon Allbery wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Carsten Mattner
>>> <carstenmattner at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Michael Norrish
>>>> <michael.norrish at nicta.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> On 13/09/12 10:52, Brandon Allbery wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Michael Norrish
>>>>>> <michael.norrish at nicta.com.au
>>>>>> <mailto:michael.norrish at nicta.com.au>> wrote: Until a few
>>>>>> days ago, this was giving me a very pleasant xmonad
>>>>>> experience with a little gnome seasoning. But, it also seems
>>>>>> as if I can't adjust my gnome settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This happened to me when I migrated my Debian stable to
>>>>>> testing (which
>>>> ran
>>>>>> GNOME 3); I never did find a way to make it behave, and
>>>>>> finally gave up and wiped the install.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the (depressing) news.  I will have to look into
>>>>> what I can do without.
>>>>
>>>> GNOME 3.x theming is still evolving and therefore you most
>>>>
>>>
>>> I should clarify:  this was GNOME 3 running in fallback (i.e.
>>> "should be" GNOME 2).  But somehow all theming was disabled and (it
>>> being that I had a theme engine configured, and it was present in
>>> the system and if I installed a theme manager I could
>>> deselect/reselect it) theme engines threw errors as if they
>>> couldn't be found.  Or, integrating the above, that something is
>>> forcing the theme to something stupid and ugly, possibly in a
>>> misguided attempt to get people to throw everything (possibly
>>> including hardware) out and upgrade to the Glorious New Shiny.
>>
>> I'd like to throw a bit in here. I'm running completely without
>> {gnome,xfce}-session-manager (which does normally all the fancy gtk
>> theme settings).
>> It is possible to configure gtk-{2,3} applications without GNOME or
>> XFCE though.
>>
>> For reference I've attached my ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and
>> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini files.
>>
>> Themes can most likely be found in /usr/share/themes (depends on
>> installation) whereas icon themes normally reside in /usr/share/icons
>> (again, dependent on installation).
>
> Plus ~/.themes and ~/.icons.

~/.gtkrc-2.0 is also sourced.
For ease of use there are several gtk2 and gtk3 theme
selector/configurators: gtk-chtheme, lxappearance, and a tools called
widget factory which I don't remember the package or exact project
name of.

>> The reference for configuring gtk with plain files are
>> http://developer.gnome.org/gtk/stable/GtkSettings.html
>> http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkSettings.html
>> Please note that the format slightly differs, especially for strings.
>> It is also noteworthy, that the include for a theme in gtkrc-2.0 has
>> to be upfront.
>>
>> Hope this was helpful and best regards,
>>
>> Jochen
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