[xmonad] gnome theming is destroying my life

[Carsten Mattner]

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Jochen Keil <jochen.keil at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> On 13.09.2012 17:15, Brandon Allbery wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Carsten Mattner
>> <carstenmattner at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Michael Norrish
>>> <michael.norrish at nicta.com.au> wrote:
>>>> On 13/09/12 10:52, Brandon Allbery wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Michael Norrish
>>>>> <michael.norrish at nicta.com.au
>>>>> <mailto:michael.norrish at nicta.com.au>> wrote: Until a few
>>>>> days ago, this was giving me a very pleasant xmonad
>>>>> experience with a little gnome seasoning. But, it also seems
>>>>> as if I can't adjust my gnome settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> This happened to me when I migrated my Debian stable to
>>>>> testing (which
>>> ran
>>>>> GNOME 3); I never did find a way to make it behave, and
>>>>> finally gave up and wiped the install.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the (depressing) news.  I will have to look into
>>>> what I can do without.
>>>
>>> GNOME 3.x theming is still evolving and therefore you most
>>>
>>
>> I should clarify:  this was GNOME 3 running in fallback (i.e.
>> "should be" GNOME 2).  But somehow all theming was disabled and (it
>> being that I had a theme engine configured, and it was present in
>> the system and if I installed a theme manager I could
>> deselect/reselect it) theme engines threw errors as if they
>> couldn't be found.  Or, integrating the above, that something is
>> forcing the theme to something stupid and ugly, possibly in a
>> misguided attempt to get people to throw everything (possibly
>> including hardware) out and upgrade to the Glorious New Shiny.
>
> I'd like to throw a bit in here. I'm running completely without
> {gnome,xfce}-session-manager (which does normally all the fancy gtk
> theme settings).
> It is possible to configure gtk-{2,3} applications without GNOME or
> XFCE though.
>
> For reference I've attached my ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and
> ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini files.
>
> Themes can most likely be found in /usr/share/themes (depends on
> installation) whereas icon themes normally reside in /usr/share/icons
> (again, dependent on installation).

Plus ~/.themes and ~/.icons.

> The reference for configuring gtk with plain files are
> http://developer.gnome.org/gtk/stable/GtkSettings.html
> http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkSettings.html
> Please note that the format slightly differs, especially for strings.
> It is also noteworthy, that the include for a theme in gtkrc-2.0 has
> to be upfront.
>
> Hope this was helpful and best regards,
>
> Jochen
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