[web-devel] Yesod renaming

[Tom Murphy]

Just to throw my 2¢ in, I have to admit that I frequently confuse Yesod and
Yampa (and I use them both!). Two 5-letter names starting with "Y", both big
parts of the Haskell "ecosystem," can be confusing.

Tom



On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Michael Snoyman <michael at snoyman.com>wrote:

> Thanks for the input everyone. It sounds like most people are not in
> favor of the rename. Glad to get external confirmation: I personally
> have no problem pronouncing the name, but I chose it in the first
> place ;). I think I'll be putting up a new screencast soon, and I'll
> be sure to pronounce the name as clearly as my American-accented
> Hebrew will allow for.
>
> As for the "correct" way to pronounce the name: the "e" is from the
> Hebrew vowel "shva", which is known linguistically as a Schwa[1]. The
> "o" is a long vowel, like in "soap". "Y", "s" and "d" are pronounced
> just like they are in English.
>
> Thanks to my wife for the assistance: fortunately, she studied
> linguistics in school. I would have had know idea about the Schwa.
>
> Michael
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwa
>
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:16 PM,  <vagif.verdi at gmail.com> wrote:
> > :) I agree, silly name. Not sure though about how hard it is to
> pronounce. I
> > am not a native english speaker, and yet i have no problem with that
> name.
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, March 26, 2011 01:08:32 AM you wrote:
> >> > Mithril - It is described as stronger than steel but much lighter in
> >> > weight.
> >>
> >> I thought the idea was to come up with a name that would be easier to
> >> pronounce across cultures and have more meaning, not be harder and have
> >> about the same :)
> >>
> >> > And the name is not taken (suprisingly)
> >> >
> >> > On Friday, March 25, 2011 02:46:03 PM you wrote:
> >> >> Michael has floated the possibility of re-naming Yesod.
> >> >>
> >> >> Pro:
> >> >> * Something that everyone can pronounce
> >> >> * Something easier to remember
> >> >> * Something that invokes a meaningful mental impression (instead of a
> >> >> "what does that mean?").
> >> >>
> >> >> Con:
> >> >> * Yesod is *very* distinctive, we'd most likely end up with a less
> >> >> unique name
> >> >> * People know Yesod already
> >> >> One other con we had was the re-naming effort, but I think we could
> >> >> mitigate that by continuing to use the Yesod name in the code to a
> large
> >> >> extent for a while.
> >> >>
> >> >> Would a phonetic spelling on the homepage help?
> >> >> yee-sode: high performance, type-safe web development
> >> >>
> >> >> Feedback on the issue is welcome. We are probably more concerned
> about
> >> >> thinking back to the initial impression someone gets of the framework
> >> >> when evaluating it or beginning to use it. It would be great to hear
> >> >> opinion from the international crowd.
> >> >
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