[core libraries] Re: haskell/bytestring stalled?

[Carter Schonwald]

To the extent that hvr the current maintainer wants help from fellow clc,
we’re available albeit finite bandwidth.

Ghc has had a lot of optimizer regressions wrt core libraries for some time
now.  The challenge is that the bandwidth etc to straddle both legs is
quite a bit of effort!

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 3:32 AM George Wilson <george at wils.online> wrote:

> According to this [table], bytestring is a boot library, so by reason
> 3 listed in  [libraries], I believe bytestring already comes under the
> CLC. In that case, the latter page should be updated.
>
> It's possible the committee could provide some assistance on the
> backlog of issues and PRs. But working on one of the high performance
> libraries like bytestring (another example is vector) requires
> delicate care, so I think for the most part it would be difficult for
> committee members to help in a "drive-by" capacity. I too am
> interested in whether Duncan and Herbert would find another maintainer
> helpful.
>
> [table]
> https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/wikis/commentary/libraries/version-history
> [libraries] https://wiki.haskell.org/Library_submissions#The_Libraries
>
> Cheers,
> George
>
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 05:07, 'Simon Jakobi' via
> haskell-core-libraries <haskell-core-libraries at googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi again, and happy new year! :)
> >
> > I'd like to revive this thread, now that the holiday season has
> > passed. Sorry for my somewhat naive attempts to get people involved in
> > my last emails – I have shortened my CC-list since. :)
> >
> > I have noticed some healthy activity in the bytestring project in the
> meantime:
> >
> > * Duncan suggested in [#198] that GHC 8.10.1 use the existing
> > bytestring-0.10.10.0 release.
> >
> > * [#140] has seen more productive discussion on the future of
> > ByteString's IsString instance, with much valuable input from Herbert.
> >
> > * At least 3 PRs ([#142], [#196], [#182]) have become ready for merge
> > (as far as I can tell), although they didn't get a maintainer response
> > in the last 3 weeks, which I largely attribute to the holidays.
> >
> > * [#196], which I prepared with the help of Sylvain Henry, fixed the
> > build of bytestring's benchmark suite which had been broken since 2015
> > ([#52]), and which had been an impediment to many PRs since. This has
> > allowed me to detect a rather worrying performance regression in GHC
> > 8.10, [#17660].
> >
> > Many thanks to everyone involved! :)
> >
> > What remains unclear to me is who will lead the effort of taking care
> > of bytestring's backlog of open PRs and issues. I still doubt that
> > Duncan or Herbert have the necessary bandwidth.
> >
> > Duncan, I would be very grateful if you could share your own
> > perspective on this in this thread!
> >
> > Since I had addressed my last email to the CLC, I also wonder about
> > their perspective on the issue. I have since noticed that bytestring
> > is in fact not one of the core [libraries] that the CLC officially
> > maintains. Is the CLC possibly interested in adopting bytestring,
> > and/or to get involved in improving the maintenance situation in
> > bytestring? This is just an idea – I don't actually know what power or
> > resources the CLC could contribute here.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Simon
> >
> > [#52] https://github.com/haskell/bytestring/issues/52
> > [#140] https://github.com/haskell/bytestring/issues/140
> > [#142] https://github.com/haskell/bytestring/pull/142
> > [#182] https://github.com/haskell/bytestring/pull/182
> > [#196] https://github.com/haskell/bytestring/pull/196
> > [#198] https://github.com/haskell/bytestring/issues/198
> > [#17660] https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/issues/17660
> > [libraries] https://wiki.haskell.org/Library_submissions#The_Libraries
> >
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