Monad of no `return` Proposal (MRP): Moving `return` out of `Monad`

Henrik Nilsson Henrik.Nilsson at nottingham.ac.uk
Sat Oct 3 08:40:46 UTC 2015


Hi all,

Johan Tibell wrote:

On 10/03/2015 09:00 AM, Johan Tibell wrote:
> Time doesn't go to infinity for us. Haskell currently has a window of
> opportunity for being adopted and bringing more functional programmers
> to the world. This window isn't very big, perhaps a couple of years to a
> decade. If we make programming in Haskell annoying by continuously
> breaking anything, people will lose interest in Haskell and move on to
> other languages.

Well said. That is also a major concern of Graham and myself.
And it is not just people considering adopting Haskell
who are being annoyed, but also long-standing members of
the community.

Just to give one data point, Graham tells me that the
latest revision of Richard Bird's Haskell book was
broken with respect to the latest changes before it
had had a chance to hit the shops. The changes that
broke the book may well have been essential. But such
breakage is clearly annoying to many people, including
those who have bought a recently updated book only
to find that it does not quite work.

We really need to be careful to not break things
unless absolutely necessary.

Best,

/Henrik

-- 
Henrik Nilsson
School of Computer Science
The University of Nottingham
nhn at cs.nott.ac.uk




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