Drastic Prelude changes imminent

Carter Schonwald carter.schonwald at gmail.com
Tue Jan 27 19:09:21 UTC 2015


+1

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Christopher Allen <cma at bitemyapp.com>
wrote:

> This has been the experience of many (not all) beginners I've worked with
> as well.
>
> Confusion with redundancy more often than the concept embedded in the
> polymorphic version. It should be said that Functor is usually a titch
> easier to learn for new people than Foldable or Traversable even if they're
> not complicated to experienced Haskellers.
>
> Another problem is that most books for learning Haskell don't incorporate
> much of the typeclasses under discussion, partly because of how new they
> are.
>
> I don't think these caveats are a good reason to block or mutilate the BBP.
>
> --- Chris
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:57 PM, harry <voldermort at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Augustsson, Lennart wrote
>> > A lot of people might have opinions about what is good for beginners,
>> but
>> > the only opinions that matter are from those who have actually taught a
>> > large number of beginners.  I'm not one of them, so I'll keep my
>> beginner
>> > opinions to myself.
>>
>> When I was a beginner, I don't recall having trouble understanding the
>> polymorphic versions, but I was soundly confounded by the apparent
>> redundancy of map/fmap etc. Particularly when the answer was "to make
>> things
>> easier for beginners"!
>>
>>
>>
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