[Haskell-community] Is it reasonable to poll the community on this ML?

Paolo Giarrusso paolo.giarrusso at uni-tuebingen.de
Mon Aug 29 14:55:30 UTC 2016


Replying to https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-community/2016-August/000127.html
(I can't reply properly otherwise as I just subscribed):

> > 2) This really just boils down to the political gridlock between HP and
> > Stack. Unless the actual parties involved in that gridlock can hammer out
> > an actual decision directly, why have an obscure vote on an obscure mailing
> > list? Such an act comes off as clandestine.
>
> As per: https://wiki.haskell.org/Haskell.org_committee the list serves
> as a forum for the committee, which is the historical body in charge
> of haskell.org and its subdomains, to discuss actions under its
> purview with a broader group of interested people.

> There is no polling
> mechanism as such — the committee is empowered to act, but this forum
> was created as a way to ensure that people had a single unified venue
> to discuss publically such actions.

> It was announced both to
> haskell-cafe as well as the reddit at the time of its creation.

If the poll was announced there, there would still be extra friction.
But IIUC only the mailing list was announced there.

> We
> can’t expect committee members to follow discussions all over
> reddit/twitter/etc nor can we expect such discussions to archive well
> and uniformly so we have a future record.

If you want to have a poll over a mailing list, what about e.g.
haskell-cafe? Or naming any other place where more people have access?

I might understand the concern about archiving, but haskell-cafe
solves that. And "the committee can't be expected to follow
discussions" and "is empowered to act" does sound like "the committee
can't be expected to listen to the community".

Cheers,
-- 
Paolo G. Giarrusso - Ph.D. Student, Tübingen University
http://ps.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/team/giarrusso/


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