[Haskell-cafe] [Call for Participation]: Haskell Certification Program

[Noon van der Silk]

Hey Tom,

Thanks for clarifying the money position.

> Serokell does not financially benefit from this initiative.

It's probably worth making this clear in the terms of service or otherwise
(as Georgi hinted at).

But I would also note that clearly Serokell want their name attached to it;
so they definitely do benefit implicitly from the endorsement.

I do still think it's a shame that the HF is attempting to adopt this as a
somehow "formal" "ability in Haskell measure"; to my simple mind this is a
very large overstep for a language's foundation to make; i.e. it should be
taken *very* seriously, if HF somehow represents "Haskell" officially. I.e.
my only personal course of action is just to assume that it, in fact, does
not represent all our interests; which, of course, you will not be
surprised, to learn is my true feeling :)

But myself aside, I do think some care needs to be taken; i.e. to explain
clearly why the HF hasn't chosen to select this as "one among many
options"; i.e. just link to it, compared to making it "the" url for
certification for Haskell; and likewise writing the content to imply that.

--
Noon


On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 at 13:20, Tom Ellis <
tom-lists-haskell-cafe-2023 at jaguarpaw.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 07:01:18AM +0100, Noon van der Silk wrote:
> > It's probably worth being clear on any potential conflict of interest
> here
> > with this being an seemingly "official" haskell-foundation sponsored
> > certification and whether or not Serokell is a funder of the HF and/or
> has
> > seats on the board.
>
> Hello Noon,
>
> The HF will hold any proceeds gained from the certification program
> and put them back into funding the program.  Serokell does not
> financially benefit from this initiative.
>
> Regarding board members, you can see who they are on the HF website,
> and that no employee of Serokell has a board seat (nor has any ever):
>
> https://haskell.foundation/who-we-are/
>
> Regarding donors, you can see a list of donors on the HF website front
> page, and that Serokell does not appear:
>
> https://haskell.foundation/
>
> (I don't actually know if that comprises literally all the donors nor
> all historical donors, but as far as I am aware, Serokell is not one
> nor has ever been.)
>
> Tom
> (HF Vice Chair)
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Noon van der Silk

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