<div dir="ltr">Hey Tom,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for clarifying the money position.</div><div><br></div><div>> Serokell does not financially benefit from this initiative.<div><br></div><div><div>It's probably worth making this clear in the terms of service or otherwise (as Georgi hinted at).</div></div></div><div><br></div><div>But I would also note that clearly Serokell want their name attached to it; so they definitely do benefit implicitly from the endorsement.</div><div><br></div><div>I do still think it's a shame that the HF is attempting to adopt this as a somehow "formal" "ability in Haskell measure"; to my simple mind this is a very large overstep for a language's foundation to make; i.e. it should be taken <i>very</i> seriously, if HF somehow represents "Haskell" officially. I.e. my only personal course of action is just to assume that it, in fact, does not represent all our interests; which, of course, you will not be surprised, to learn is my true feeling :)</div><div><br></div><div>But myself aside, I do think some care needs to be taken; i.e. to explain clearly why the HF hasn't chosen to select this as "one among many options"; i.e. just link to it, compared to making it "the" url for certification for Haskell; and likewise writing the content to imply that.</div><div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Noon</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 at 13:20, Tom Ellis <<a href="mailto:tom-lists-haskell-cafe-2023@jaguarpaw.co.uk">tom-lists-haskell-cafe-2023@jaguarpaw.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 07:01:18AM +0100, Noon van der Silk wrote:<br>
> It's probably worth being clear on any potential conflict of interest here<br>
> with this being an seemingly "official" haskell-foundation sponsored<br>
> certification and whether or not Serokell is a funder of the HF and/or has<br>
> seats on the board.<br>
<br>
Hello Noon,<br>
<br>
The HF will hold any proceeds gained from the certification program<br>
and put them back into funding the program. Serokell does not<br>
financially benefit from this initiative.<br>
<br>
Regarding board members, you can see who they are on the HF website,<br>
and that no employee of Serokell has a board seat (nor has any ever):<br>
<br>
<a href="https://haskell.foundation/who-we-are/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://haskell.foundation/who-we-are/</a><br>
<br>
Regarding donors, you can see a list of donors on the HF website front<br>
page, and that Serokell does not appear:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://haskell.foundation/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://haskell.foundation/</a><br>
<br>
(I don't actually know if that comprises literally all the donors nor<br>
all historical donors, but as far as I am aware, Serokell is not one<br>
nor has ever been.)<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
(HF Vice Chair)<br>
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