[Haskell-cafe] Teaching High-School one-semester FP (using Haskell)

Richard O'Keefe raoknz at gmail.com
Mon Dec 14 00:25:26 UTC 2020


You can find "ML for the Working Programmer" on-line at
https://b-ok.global/book/540620/dbb55f
Supposedly this is legal.

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 at 13:00, Albert Y. C. Lai <trebla at vex.net> wrote:

> I think that the 99 Haskell Problems are an easy source of short exercises.
>
> https://wiki.haskell.org/H-99:_Ninety-Nine_Haskell_Problems
>
> For longer, well-motivated problems, I think of the long-running
> examples in textbooks, for example the Countdown chapter in Hutton's
> Programming in Haskell.
>
> If you can find/borrow Lawrence Paulson's ML for The Working Programmer,
> it has a list of suggested projects near the end.  Don't worry about how
> that book is on ML rather than Haskell, most of its exercises and
> projects are good for Haskell too.  In fact, enjoy this sentence from
> the book: "This sort of thing is easier in Haskell". :)
>
> And now a dark turn---every silver lining has tarnish.
>
> FP does not change people from writing convoluted borrowed code to
> original simple code.  I saw this in my students, their only difference
> from your dis they are in university.  Everything you said about having
> gone through Python and Java, fishing for answers on Stackoverflow, and
> making a mess, is just as true of my students.  And to think that
> they're university students, yes.
>
> In fact, it may be even worse, now that recursion is compulsory.  People
> distrust recursion, they will think up all kinds of crazy schemes to
> micromanage code execution, rather than just letting recursion do its job.
>
> In fact, even worse when the language is Haskell instead of SML and
> OCaml, because of "how do I print debugging output?"
>
>
> On 2020-12-10 4:55 p.m., Zachi Baharav wrote:
> > Dear mighty Haskell list,
> >
> > I am a high-school teacher in the US (California, Palo Alto). We have an
> > advanced CS course that students can take after completing the AP-CS-A
> > (in Java). This is usually Juniors and Seniors, after at least 2 or 3
> > courses of coding (Python+Java). Traditionally, I've done a potpourri of
> > subjects, mostly search algorithms as applied to 'games'. Of course a
> > little bit of data-structure comes in, and each year we did some 'other'
> > interesting subject (like halftoning, barcodes, and so on) and
> > investigated and implemented algorithms there.
> >
> > THIS year, for the second half, I would like us to do
> > Functional-Programming. From what I have seen, my students over the
> > years tend to write more and more convoluted codes, electing first to
> > search on stackOverFlow for some similar pattern, rather than think and
> > find a concise and clean solution. I think FP would supply them with a
> > new way of thinking, which will help with whatever they will write later
> on.
> >
> > I've been coding with Haskell for about 7 years, so feel ok leading the
> > class.
> >
> > The question: I have many books on Haskell (i think 'all', but who
> > knows.  Haskell, Real world Haskell, Learn you a haskell for great good,
> > programming in haskell, and many more).
> > --->  I am looking for something more hands-on and 'fun' for HS
> > students. may i say the buzzword 'project based', or maybe better
> > 'problem based' for our case.
> > Something that I could teach a little, and then we can solve a bunch of
> > problems, and teach a little more, and so on.
> >
> > It doesn't have to be a Book!!  Just an outline of a course someone did
> > with associated bunch of problems would be awesome. We have 18 weeks in
> > a semester. My thought right now (if I don't find anything) is to relyon
> > Euler project early problems. These are often clean and simple in
> > Haskell.  Or otherwise some CSES problems (which we've done in Java).
> >
> > Ok, long enough email.
> >
> > If you have material and can share here, great!
> > If you have material and want to reach out privately, please do
> > (zbaharav at kehillah.org <mailto:zbaharav at kehillah.org>).
> > If you have a good pointer, that would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help!
> >     Zachi
> > (Dr. Zachi Baharav, HS teacher  (after 20 years in Industry and
> academia))
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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