[Haskell-cafe] heres a replacement CI template using gh actions: Psa : perhaps time for maintainers to start migrating off Travis ci

[Carter Schonwald]

If you’re volunteering to do the legwork to have easy peasy ci setup for
me, I graciously accept!

Otherwise I don’t see how this critique is advancing a constructive
dialogue. Your suggestions aren’t concretely actionable for me given finite
time.

If you choose to do some community organizing to advance this approach
you’re advocating, I look forward to using it.  Else it’s just putting down
something I’m sharing in the open in hopes it has use for other folks.

Happy holidays!
-Carter

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 5:53 PM Joachim Durchholz <jo at durchholz.org> wrote:

> Not wanting to dishearten you, but Github *was* acquired by Microsoft,
> and that company has changed policy more often than I have appendages to
> count.
> Which means that replacing a Travis workflow with a Github workflow
> isn't improving anything, it's merely another station on the CI
> caravan's route.
>
> Gitlab *is* publishing large parts of their server-side code. Set up a
> local test installation, make sure that CI automation runs there, then
> migrate to Gitlab - that's the strategy I'd choose, YMMV.
>
> Gitlab may become FOSS-unfriendly over time just like any other
> commercial entity, but their barrier is significantly higher: The will
> loser more users and faster if they try anything funny with their
> policy, because then people will just run their own servers. Their
> current policy is a bit of a "we promise to remain FOSS-friendly,
> because, see? - we're locking ourselves in your corner" plot, and of
> course me advertising this is exactly what they want to achieve :-)
>
> DISCLAIMER: I am NOT affiliated with Gitlab in any way.
> Or with any other commercial entity offering services to the open-source
> community.
>
> Regards,
> Jo
>
> Am 13.12.20 um 20:59 schrieb Carter Schonwald:
> >
> https://github.com/cartazio/ralist/blob/495c3dcb3a8e16a693a97a415f731907549aa615/.github/workflows/hs-matrix.yml
>
> > is my current iteration
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 1:02 PM Carter Schonwald
> > <carter.schonwald at gmail.com <mailto:carter.schonwald at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hey everyone: it looks like, from my perspective and experiences,
> >     that Travis ci should perhaps now be viewed as not open source
> >     friendly. Or even converging on hostile?
> >
> >     1) crazy long queue times/ latency for oss ci actions to run
> >
> >     2) very low concurrency on oss builds.
> >
> >     3) very low build build  minute caps for oss that require high touch
> >     customer support contact to adjust.
> >
> >     I’ve started moving my own projects slowly to gh actions for now,
> >     though there’s also gitlab ci , src hut and other options that may
> >     suit different folks.
> >
> >     There’s definitely some ways to keep on having the clever cabal
> >     caching we know and love that folks like the Haskell-ci folks and
> >     others have hacked out for Travis be available on other platforms,
> >     though I don’t think there’s consolidated docs for those yet ?  Def
> >     seen it discussed though.
> >
> >     https://github.com/haskell-CI/haskell-ci/issues/411
> >
> >     Heres a url to my dupe ticket where I share an example naive use of
> >     the setup Haskell gh actions Config, definitely not perfect. But
> >     kinda amazing to have Mac and Linux and windows ci all in one ! :)
> >
> >
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