[Haskell-cafe] You know, I am tired of it.

Tony Morris tmorris at tmorris.net
Wed Jul 8 12:57:04 UTC 2015


You're awesome. I wish I could be like you.

Have you tried Scala?

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Stefan Reich <
stefan.reich.maker.of.eye at googlemail.com> wrote:

> So you basically say that open sourcing is very good. It is :) I always
> work like this now, everything I do in my db (snippets.tinybrain.de) is
> versioned publicly. Basically, nothing ever breaks, with a little effort.
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:20 PM, David Gladstein <gladstein at gladstein.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Regarding the time-varying importance of shit:
>>
>> A few years back Blender (www.blender.org) had a major release that
>> broke everything. The UI changed, so all the tutorials were suddenly wrong
>> As in, five minutes in you were lost, trying to find nonexistent panels on
>> your screen. I'd been trying to learn Blender off and on over the years,
>> and when I finally decided to make a serious run at it, it was impossible.
>> I gave up and came back a few more times, and finally the tutorials got
>> updated and I was off and running.
>>
>> I noticed a few aspects of Blender that were absolutely brilliant
>> compared to Maya. I wondered, that's so obviously the right thing, why
>> doesn't Autodesk do that in Maya? And then it hit me. They simply can't.
>> They get thousands of dollars per seat for their product, and studios
>> depend on it being backward-compatible. The studios are VERY conservative
>> about upgrading, they're often a release or two behind the ones everyone
>> else uses. Blender is free, and if you want any version since 1.0, it's
>> available. If you want all of them at once, you can have that. It's just a
>> program. Something broke for you in a certain version? Just use the version
>> that works. It's like version control, it doesn't prevent mistakes, but it
>> allows you to go back to when things were working.
>>
>> I'm pleased to note that the Haskell wiki has versions of the platform
>> going back five years, so hopefully we're in the position of making
>> well-thought-out breaking changes rather than maintaining compatibility
>> forever.
>>
>> (I have no idea what this thread is about, so forgive me if I'm coming
>> down on the wrong side of the argument. I like my story anyway.)
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Stefan Reich <
>> stefan.reich.maker.of.eye at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just because you say this - doesn't make it true. I'm still saying the
>>> truth here.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Gleb Popov <6yearold at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Stefan Reich <
>>>> stefan.reich.maker.of.eye at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Whatever "community" I go, they all pretend like their old shit is SO
>>>>> important.
>>>>>
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>>>> If everyone around are bad, then the root of the problem is within you,
>>>> don't you think?
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