[Haskell-cafe] You know, I am tired of it.

Stefan Reich stefan.reich.maker.of.eye at googlemail.com
Tue Jul 7 18:25:26 UTC 2015


So you basically say that open sourcing is very good. It is :) I always
work like this now, everything I do in my db (snippets.tinybrain.de) is
versioned publicly. Basically, nothing ever breaks, with a little effort.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:20 PM, David Gladstein <gladstein at gladstein.com>
wrote:

> Regarding the time-varying importance of shit:
>
> A few years back Blender (www.blender.org) had a major release that broke
> everything. The UI changed, so all the tutorials were suddenly wrong As in,
> five minutes in you were lost, trying to find nonexistent panels on your
> screen. I'd been trying to learn Blender off and on over the years, and
> when I finally decided to make a serious run at it, it was impossible. I
> gave up and came back a few more times, and finally the tutorials got
> updated and I was off and running.
>
> I noticed a few aspects of Blender that were absolutely brilliant compared
> to Maya. I wondered, that's so obviously the right thing, why doesn't
> Autodesk do that in Maya? And then it hit me. They simply can't. They get
> thousands of dollars per seat for their product, and studios depend on it
> being backward-compatible. The studios are VERY conservative about
> upgrading, they're often a release or two behind the ones everyone else
> uses. Blender is free, and if you want any version since 1.0, it's
> available. If you want all of them at once, you can have that. It's just a
> program. Something broke for you in a certain version? Just use the version
> that works. It's like version control, it doesn't prevent mistakes, but it
> allows you to go back to when things were working.
>
> I'm pleased to note that the Haskell wiki has versions of the platform
> going back five years, so hopefully we're in the position of making
> well-thought-out breaking changes rather than maintaining compatibility
> forever.
>
> (I have no idea what this thread is about, so forgive me if I'm coming
> down on the wrong side of the argument. I like my story anyway.)
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Stefan Reich <
> stefan.reich.maker.of.eye at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just because you say this - doesn't make it true. I'm still saying the
>> truth here.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Gleb Popov <6yearold at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Stefan Reich <
>>> stefan.reich.maker.of.eye at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Whatever "community" I go, they all pretend like their old shit is SO
>>>> important.
>>>>
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>>> don't you think?
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