[Haskell-cafe] You know, I am tired of it.

David Gladstein gladstein at gladstein.com
Tue Jul 7 18:20:30 UTC 2015


Regarding the time-varying importance of shit:

A few years back Blender (www.blender.org) had a major release that broke
everything. The UI changed, so all the tutorials were suddenly wrong As in,
five minutes in you were lost, trying to find nonexistent panels on your
screen. I'd been trying to learn Blender off and on over the years, and
when I finally decided to make a serious run at it, it was impossible. I
gave up and came back a few more times, and finally the tutorials got
updated and I was off and running.

I noticed a few aspects of Blender that were absolutely brilliant compared
to Maya. I wondered, that's so obviously the right thing, why doesn't
Autodesk do that in Maya? And then it hit me. They simply can't. They get
thousands of dollars per seat for their product, and studios depend on it
being backward-compatible. The studios are VERY conservative about
upgrading, they're often a release or two behind the ones everyone else
uses. Blender is free, and if you want any version since 1.0, it's
available. If you want all of them at once, you can have that. It's just a
program. Something broke for you in a certain version? Just use the version
that works. It's like version control, it doesn't prevent mistakes, but it
allows you to go back to when things were working.

I'm pleased to note that the Haskell wiki has versions of the platform
going back five years, so hopefully we're in the position of making
well-thought-out breaking changes rather than maintaining compatibility
forever.

(I have no idea what this thread is about, so forgive me if I'm coming down
on the wrong side of the argument. I like my story anyway.)

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Stefan Reich <
stefan.reich.maker.of.eye at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Just because you say this - doesn't make it true. I'm still saying the
> truth here.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Gleb Popov <6yearold at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Stefan Reich <
>> stefan.reich.maker.of.eye at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Whatever "community" I go, they all pretend like their old shit is SO
>>> important.
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