[Haskell-cafe] Comments requested: succ Java
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Mon Sep 28 11:59:28 EDT 2009
That's a really shame. Any idea why?
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:02 PM, John A. De Goes <john at n-brain.net> wrote:
> CAL is interesting, but unfortunately dead, and has no community.
> John A. De Goes
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> On Sep 27, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Peter Verswyvelen wrote:
> That's not really true. Just use CAL from the Open Quark framework... It's
> almost Haskell 98, with some extras, and compiles to fast JVM code.
> <http://openquark.org/Open_Quark/Welcome.html>They even seem to do all
> kinds of advanced optimizations - like converting tail calls to loops - to
> get good Java performance.
> And they have a better record system, a graphical environment to learn it,
> So I think CAL should be in the list, and since it's basically Haskell...
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 6:36 PM, John A. De Goes <john at n-brain.net> wrote:
>> I'm not sure what the point of your series is. No one who is using Java
>> now commercially can move to Haskell because Haskell doesn't run on the JVM.
>> It makes sense to discuss Clojure, Groovy, JRuby, Scala, Fan, etc., as
>> "next Java's", because they all run on the JVM and have seamless interop
>> with Java. Haskell is not in this category. It's stuck in a different world,
>> wholly inaccessible to the masses.
>> John A. De Goes
>> N-Brain, Inc.
>> The Evolution of Collaboration
>> http://www.n-brain.net | 877-376-2724 x 101
>> On Sep 27, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Curt Sampson wrote:
>> No, it's not quite what it sounds like. :-)
>>> Stuart Halloway recently posted a series of blog entries entitled
>>> "Java.next", discussing the benefits of four other languages that
>>> compile to JVM bytecode and interoperate with Java: Clojure, Groovy,
>>> JRuby, and Scala. I thought I'd put my oar in and write a parallel
>>> series comparing Haskell to these. I've finished a draft of the first
>>> posting, started on the third, and made a couple of notes on the second
>>> and fourth, and I thought I'd post the drafts and solicit comments
>>> here. If you have time to read and comment, I'd greatly appreciate the
>>> help; feel free either to e-mail me privately or post here. Also feel
>>> free to forward this to anybody else you feel might be interested in
>>> I'll probably be posting these about one per week, starting some time
>>> next week.
>>> : http://blog.thinkrelevance.com/2008/9/24/java-next-overview
>>> Curt Sampson <cjs at starling-software.com> +81 90 7737 2974
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