[Haskell-cafe] What's the deal with Clean?
jfredett at gmail.com
Wed Nov 4 00:19:13 EST 2009
Given the Shootout results, the difference is a matter of a few
seconds. If Clean Programmers need those few extra seconds, they're
welcome to them.
We're Lazy around here. :)
On Nov 4, 2009, at 12:16 AM, Gregory Crosswhite wrote:
> So I take it you are saying that it really *cleans* Haskell's clock
> when it comes to speed? ;-)
> - Greg
> On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Richard O'Keefe wrote:
>> On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Deniz Dogan wrote:
>>> So what's the deal with Clean? Why is it preferable to Haskell?
>>> Why is it not?
>> (1) Speed.
>> (2) If you are a Windows developer, the fact that Windows is the
>> platform and others (even Mac OS, which is historically ironic) are
>> second- (or in the case of Solaris) third-class citizens.
>> (3) Did I mention speed?
>> (4) It comes with its own IDE. I don't think it can do anything
>> much that
>> Haskell tools can't do, but if you don't like looking for things,
>> a help.
>> (5) Plus of course there's speed.
>> (6) They're working on a Haskell front end, so you won't actually
>> have to
>> choose. (Anyone doing a Clean front end for Haskell?)
>> (7) Haskell now has bang-patterns so you can specify (a bound on)
>> strictness when you declare a function. But that's not in
>> Haskell 98.
>> (8) As a result of this, speed is a bit more "declarative" than
>> $! in strange places.
>> (9) There's a theorem prover for Clean, called Sparkle.
>> Sadly, it's Windows-only, but we all know what most computers on
>> planet run, don't we? (It's probably Symbian, actually.)
>> (10) And finally, of course, there's speed. Did I mention that?
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