[xmonad] How to prefix workspace names with numbers?

Pablo Olmos de Aguilera C. pablo at glatelier.org
Thu Oct 11 20:11:35 CEST 2012

On 11 October 2012 04:53, Jacek Generowicz <jacek.generowicz at cern.ch> wrote:
> Pablo Olmos de Aguilera C. writes:
>>>> and after a while dzen was totally filled, so I couldn't keep track of
>>>> everything.
>>> Well, yes, as the number of workspaces grows, it does become more
>>> difficult to keep track of things. But it's much *more* difficult to
>>> keep track of all those things if you have to stuff them all on a mere 7
>>> workspaces with names like 'files' and 'various'.
>> Of course it's hard if you aren't in my mind O_o. I know perfectly
>> what's in each workspace.
> I totally admit that XMonad is just a crutch I need because of the
> limitations of my brain. My poor little brain just can't keep track of
> all of this (certainly not efficiently), if yours can, then I send a
> little nod of admiration in your general direction.
> But I find it hard to believe that anyone who can keep track of N (for
> large values of N) windows on a single workspace, would find it *more*
> difficult to keep track of the same windows, when spread out over
> several named workspaced containing related windows. But then experience
> tells me that people's brains can be wired up completely differently.

The thing is that actually I don't have many windows opened =P. Remember that
I do power off  my computer.

>>> But seriously, rebooting my computer feels like taking all my belongings
>>> out of my house and then putting them back into place. I can't fathom
>>> why anyone would want to do that voluntarily.
>> I don't have a workstation, only my laptop and a 24'' monitor. So I
>> have to turn off my computer every day.
> Huh?
> I don't have a workstation, only my laptop and a 26'' monitor. I have a
> laptop as my main workstation precisely to enable me NOT TO SWITCH IT
> OFF AT ALL, even when I have to move physically to another country. Yes,
> I might suspend or hibernate it, but switch it off? Why on earth would
> you want/need to do that?

Hibernate has never worked ok with my laptops and I move my laptop almost
everyday. Even though, I proposed myself (once again) to try to get it working!
(I have faith on TuxOnIce).

>> configuration to open the pane configuration I want. Sadly, that's
>> impossible to do with xmonad.
> Granted, I haven't found anything like that in XMonad, but then I
> haven't really looked, because I don't really need it, becasue I never
> switch my computer off.

Afaik it's impossible =(.

>>> Thanks for your kind words. They brightened up my morning.
>> Was that ironic?
> No, why?
> I interpreted your remarks as laughing with me rather than laughing at
> me. I enjoyed sharing the laugh, and thanked you for sharing it.


>> Yep, though some things you have written are good ideas that I'm
>> probably going to implement in the near future.
> Cool, it tickles me pink to have some positive influence on people.

You xmonad configuration is really "sui generis", I've seen a lot of them, but
no one to that level of details. It's well commented and has the best hotkey
configuration I've ever seen. I totally fell in love with it and I'm prolly
going to make a big mix between mine and yours.

>> Oh, thanks, though I'm still used to gmail web interface =(.
> That's something else that I find unfathomable. Email is essentially
> text. To deal with it efficiently, I want to use the most efficient tool
> I have for dealing with text. That would be the text editor I use daily,
> and whose actions have been imprinting themselves into the core of my
> nervous system over the course of many years. Regardless of what your
> choice of editor is, I can't fathom why you would want to relinquish all
> that in favour of a slow, cumbersome, inefficient, pointy-clickety
> interface.

I use the hotkeys which helps a bit, but after started using xmonad and then
pentadactyl reaching the mouse it's a pain that I try to avoid at all costs.

> OK, maybe managing your mail, as opposed to writing it, is something
> that only Emacs users would understand/want/appreciate. But *writing*
> your mail? Surely *everyone* would want to write their mail in their
> standard text editor, rather than some ad-hoc one. (So that, for
> example, if you want to prepend the author's initials to each of his
> quoted lines, there's nothing to wonder about: it just happens
> naturally.)

Yeah, I somehow do that. In fact this email is being written in a gvim window.
I use pentadactyl so after a couple of keystrokes (<C-i>) on a textarea throws
me here.

The only issue with that is that I still can't make xmonad understand that all
these windows should be floating and not tiled =/. I wrote in this list a while
ago but every attempt to make a "generic" declaration with a managehook failed.

> Personally, I just can't stomach any mail interface that is not Embedded
> in Emacs. But then Emacs is pretty much my OS.

I don't know if I can "embed" a mail interface in vim (I haven't searched), but
I guess that mutt is the closest thing to that.

Anyway, once again I felt motivated to get rid of the gmail web interface :)

Pablo Olmos de Aguilera Corradini - @PaBLoX
Linux User: #456971 - http://counter.li.org/

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