[xmonad] Fwd: A community-driven effort to make XMonad better and better

Thu Nov 8 00:09:07 CET 2012

Another gmail account defaults to reply-all.  Ugh.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lally Singh <lally.singh at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [xmonad] A community-driven effort to make XMonad better and
better
To: Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner at gmail.com>

I think darcs is a hinderer to xmonad development.  The lack of activity,
but the plentitude of interest in xmonad indicate that much.

Alfredo: please count me in.  My github username is lally.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Carsten Mattner <carstenmattner at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Brian McKenna <brian at brianmckenna.org>
> wrote:
> > As the author of osxmonad, I'm really happy with this initiative. I'm
> > not so much of a GitHub person as a Bitbucket person but that's beside
> > the point.
> >
> > A central place for all of XMonad, osxmonad, Contrib, extras and the
> > website to live would be awesome. From what I can tell, GitHub is
> > being used as a code hosting tool - not a brainwashing clinic.
>
> xmonad used darcs and therefore http://hub.darcs.net would
> be a better fit. Joachim's patch tracker works and darcs works.
>
> I think we only need more reviewers and contributors and a
> more active committer to the canonical darcs repository.
>
> I don't mind and do use hg or git but let's not use the slow
> release problem as a reason to change the vcs system.
>
> > On 7 November 2012 10:52, Alfredo Di Napoli <alfredo.dinapoli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Thanks Tim for winding-back the whole thread history. I'm not a Github
> >> evangelist and I don't like the fold this thread is taking.
> >> I have not prejudices and I'm not get payed from Github for opening
> repos. I
> >> just thought if is during this time frame the most used social coding
> app to
> >> get things done, and considered that the existing fork of the Copenaghen
> >> guys, as well as osxmonad are STILL on Github, for me is the most
> reasonable
> >> choice. Stop!
> >>
> >> As regards the website writing thing, again, I don't want to pass the
> idea
> >> I'm the leader of something. I've just kickstarted the whole thing like
> a
> >> community thing! Please get involved!
> >> You don't like the idea of a new website? Fine! I'll stick with
> anything the
> >> community wants :)
> >> I just thought that if we have a new website we also have an
> alternative, as
> >> who knows we like the new website more the the old? :)
> >>
> >> To sum up, I think that Tim has exactly made my point, so the rest it's
> up
> >> to you. If you like the idea, please chime in.
> >> Otherwise maybe we'll continue with our "fork" to see where it brings
> us,
> >> and the xmonad official repo will continue to be in darcs, exactly as
> is it
> >> now.
> >>
> >> Have a nice day!
> >> A.
> >>
> >> On 7 November 2012 18:35, <timothyhobbs at seznam.cz> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Read back in this thread.  There was no sugestion that someone doesn't
> >>> exist.  Alfredo asked if the project was maintained after discovering
> that
> >>> there were not many recent commits to the darcs repo and patches for
> bugs
> >>> which had yet to be merged.  Another user chimed in that they too
> would like
> >>> those patches merged into master and that the lack of a maintainer was
> what
> >>> was holding things back.  That second user said that they were
> maintaining
> >>> their fixed repo on github.  Alfredo kindly volunteered to maintain the
> >>> project, and suggested bringing the project onto github.  No
> assumption was
> >>> ever made by anyone.  Except perhaps Alfredo's assumption that the
> website
> >>> needed a re-write as well :P
> >>>
> >>> Tim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------- Původní zpráva ----------
> >>> Od: Brandon Allbery <allbery.b at gmail.com>
> >>> Datum: 7. 11. 2012
> >>> Předmět: Re: [xmonad] A community-driven effort to make XMonad better
> and
> >>> better
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Joachim Breitner
> >>> <mail at joachim-breitner.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> But what I read out of Brandon's mails is: It is not a different
> >>> infrastructure that xmonad needs most, it is active and enduring
> >>> maintenance and development. I've often seen people get excited about
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It's part that (and how much activity do you think a Haskell-based
> project
> >>> gets?  if I applied the Githubbers; Witnesses model to *that* I get a
> >>> rewrite into PHP!) and part that I detest Github evangelists.
> >>>
> >>> It really is The One True Church behavior.  We don't exist, have no
> >>> organization, etc. because we had the presumption to not use The Holy
> >>> Github?  This is the message of Github evangelists, repeatedly, on
> multiple
> >>> projects.
> >>>
> >>> NO.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> brandon s allbery kf8nh                               sine nomine
> >>> associates
> >>> allbery.b at gmail.com
> >>> ballbery at sinenomine.net
> >>> unix/linux, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure
> >>> http://sinenomine.net
> >>>
> >>>
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