[xmonad] override_redirect [was Re: xmonad problem or application stealing keys?]

Hans Ekbrand hans at sociologi.cjb.net
Wed Aug 10 01:12:25 CEST 2011

On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 06:46:40PM -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 16:55, Hans Ekbrand <hans at sociologi.cjb.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 12:17:49PM -0400, Brandon Allbery wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 05:08, Hans Ekbrand <hans at sociologi.cjb.net>
> > wrote:
> > > > If I start the application with command line parameters that will make
> > > > it try to get fullscreen mode, then:
> > >
> > > This is symptomatic of a window that is not being managed, i.e. it uses
> > > override_redirect.
> >
> > Is using override_redirect a bug, a bad thing or a feature?
> >
> Depends on what you're doing.  Environments such as CDE don't support the
> newer EWMH-based stuff, plus EWMH doesn't really give you a way to get a
> fully immersive experience (completely "replacing" the local machine with
> the remote) which many people want. 

I see.

> Is it meaningful to file a bug report (severity: whishlist) against
> > xpdf?
> >
> xpdf is a fairly old tool and there are modern alternatives that will play
> along with modern window managers better.  Unfortunately, I also know they
> don't always work as well; xpdf development has focused on the PDF handling
> at the expense of the UI, and while many of the newer ones are based on
> xpdf, they are often slow to incorporate improvements in the PDF engine.

I'm on debian, and tried out the different pdf-viewers available
there. I liked zathura best, it's new and has a few bugs, but renders
pages fast and works well in "fullscreen" managed by xmonad. zathura
is my primary pdf-viewer now.

Thanks for your time, Brandon.

Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) <hans at sociologi.cjb.net>
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