[web-devel] On moving Yesod-specific discussion to a separate list

Greg Weber greg at gregweber.info
Mon Jun 27 16:46:11 CEST 2011

Chris, did you try filtering for Yesod just in the subject and not in the

Jasper, you made some useful distinctions about what you would like to see
on web-devel. And if they were easy to follow, I would be for them. But I am
wondering if web-devel users will appreciate what is truly Yesod related and
what is using a library that is available to any web developer. Michael
already mentioned WAI. Another example would be the Persistent library. It
is almost entirely developed and documented by a few Yesod users. Most of
its usage is from Yesod users. However, users of other web frameworks use
Persistent. Another wrinkle- data storage is not a problem unique to web
development, and there are Persistent users that aren't even doing web

Instead of phrasing things as what you would like to see on the mail list,
what are the *exact* instructions would you give to someone as to which mail
list to use?

Greg Weber

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Christopher Done
<chrisdone at googlemail.com>wrote:

> On 27 June 2011 10:10, Nicolas Wu <nicolas.wu at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 27 June 2011 08:38, Jasper Van der Jeugt <m at jaspervdj.be> wrote:
> >> I think it would benefit the two types of readers if we could move
> >> Yesod-specific discussion to a separate mailing list.
> >
> > I second this proposal and sentiment. I have nothing against Yesod,
> > but I feel like I'm getting overwhelmed by emails that are too Yesod
> > specific on this list.
> I also have this problem. I posted a while ago that all I ever receive
> is yesod posts:
> http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/web-devel/2010/000647.html
> I actually didn't unsubscribe, I just set a GMail filter. Recently I
> unset that to open some discussions. I noticed that I was actually
> missing out on general web-dev developments.
> But if I search "web-devel" in GMail, 14 out of the 20 results are
> yesod-specific. I created a test filter to remove "web-devel + yesod",
> but then I miss out on general posts where people merely mention
> yesod. 577 of 1224 *subjects* in the archive contain yesod.
> > * I would actually prefer pulling in the Snap and Happstack mailing
> > lists to web-devel: I think there is a lot of room for better
> > discussions if we're all talking together by default. I'm already
> > subscribed to both mailing lists, and I don't think it will be a
> > problem to include that traffic here.
> I'm pretty sure that would make the problem worse. Then we would have
> yesod, happstack and snap "how do I do X?" questions to filter out.
> But anyway it seems more attractive these days for me to properly
> unsubscribe and get interesting web developments via Planet Haskell
> and Reddit or something. If you chaps want to get my attention
> specifically please drop me a mail or something.
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