[web-devel] A light-weight web framework

[S. Alexander Jacobson]

My priorities:

* Make storage and client stuff transparent to server side developer

* Use in memory haskell data structures to represent state.
   + rely on MACID for persistence
   + no type errors from app/db inconsistency
   + isolate schema change risk to deserialization from disk
   + no need for extra mem-cache plumbing!

* Atomatic conversion to/from wire format types to haskell data types in
   my app.  Auto-parse/generate JSON/XML/URLEncode.

* Scaling should be really really easy

* easy integration of multi-protocol services e.g. IRC, SMTP, HTTP in one app.
   See HPaste and Pass.net.

* develop in Haskell.

-Alex-




On Thu, 5 Apr 2007, Paul Brown wrote:

> Let me through Avi Bryant's recent slides into the conversation:
>
> http://smallthought.com/avi/etech.pdf
>
> Some things that I think, some of which overlap with what Avi's saying:
>
> 1) Programmatic generation of content is good.  Interaction with
> designers can be managed simply -- select CSS as the primary means of
> customizing display, settle on prototype HTML for the designers to
> work with, generate the HTML programmatically to that prototype as a
> spec.
>
> 2) Templating is ugly.  Debugging and testing are difficult.
> Templating is antipodal to separation of concerns.
>
> I'd like us to brainstorm on a couple of topics:
>
> A) How do we leverage what is special about Haskell -- laziness,
> types, purity -- to create an effective and simple web framework?
>
> B) What's wrong with existing web frameworks (RoR, straight JSP, PHP, etc.)?
>
> For my money, the things that are wrong with RoR and friends is that
> they let you write really awful software -- even *force* you to do so
> by the decomposition into templates, controllers, etc.  Which brings
> us back to question A.
>
> -- 
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