Proposal: add liftA4 and liftA5 to match liftM4 and liftM5

Carter Schonwald carter.schonwald at gmail.com
Thu Nov 6 06:26:15 UTC 2014


could you elaborate more on why it would be "silly"?
wouldn't defining things using <*> and pure be the way to make things
simpler? Could you explain more please?

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:44 PM, David Feuer <david.feuer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sure you could, but that would be kind of silly. liftMN should either be
> defined as liftAN or should be defined using the Monad ops as they have in
> the past. I was trying to make Base a little smaller by using the first
> approach, but it's not a big deal to repeat everything with specializations
> and unfoldings.
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Carter Schonwald <
> carter.schonwald at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> umm.... you can use  <*> to define the liftAN operations right? Couldn't
>> you just directly use <*> and pure to define the liftMN ones?
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:32 PM, David Feuer <david.feuer at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I'm looking to define  liftM = liftA, liftM2 = liftA2, liftM3 =
>>> liftA3, and (with a modified definition of ap) I'm getting that to work,
>>> but that leaves liftM4 and liftM5 hanging.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:30 PM, John Lato <jwlato at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone actually want these?  I would have thought we should go the
>>>> other way and deprecate `liftM3+` in favor of using `<*>`.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu Nov 06 2014 at 10:26:36 AM David Feuer <david.feuer at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since Applicative is supposed to be important now, I figure we should
>>>>> get these in.
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