[Haskell-community] 2018 state of Haskell survey

[Boespflug, Mathieu]

Since I was pinged up-thread, might as well chime in. If only to say
"I agree": selection bias is what it is. Taylor's efforts to come to
this committee are laudable. And really could help mitigate some
issues we've seen with other surveys. Selection bias isn't something
worth agonizing over, provided we're careful to say in the analysis of
the results: "We found that X% of the respondents of this survey use
Y", not "X% of Haskell devs use Y".

On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 21:02, Simon Peyton Jones via Haskell-community
<haskell-community at haskell.org> wrote:
>
> | Hi Taylor. I like the way you pose things here: "I don't expect that
> | to remove selection bias, but it will let me (us, really) say: We're
> | doing this together for the benefit of all sides". I think that's a
> | better place to start from.
>
> I like this too -- and like Gershom, I'd delete "sides".  We aspire
> to work together, not on different sides.
>
> | earlier I've been thinking about a bit, where you wrote: "My goal is
> | for this survey to be *the* authoritative Haskell survey and for the
> | community to broadly accept it's results."
>
> This sounds a bit too exclusive to me, and implicitly critical of other
> work.  Better to stick to the positives: you simply want the
> opinions of a broad constituency on a broad range of questions.
>
> | Anyway, this is all a long-winded way of suggesting that it might be
> | good if the purpose of the survey was explicitly set out as trying to
> | inform developers of haskell libraries and tools (and educational
> | materials) regarding the systems their potential users work on and
> | develop, and their habits and practices in doing so, and where they
> | encounter difficulty. That is explicitly as a way of learning rather
> | than as any sort of horse-race or popularity contest.
>
> That sounds good to me -- but again in drafting the goals I'd stick
> to the positives, and not speak about horse-races.
>
> Simon
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