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[Steven J. Syrek]

As a beginner, I found Stack far and away the better solution. HP polluted
my system, causing me problems it took me literally years to track down,
even after I thought I deleted it. Even if it were to improve, I will never
trust it again, and I think my sentiment is widespread. It's already
confusing to have multiple download options and multiple webpages. At the
moment, nothing beats "brew install haskell-stack" (for me, but not much
more complicated to follow the instructions on the excellent Stack hp), so
I don't see why you wouldn't just make that the one and only recommended
installation method. Everyone is being steered away from HP, anyway, and I
sort of wonder how many people who read this list are still using it
themselves and not Stack?

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 11:00 AM Adam Foltzer <acfoltzer at gmail.com> wrote:

> What about the backpack-related work?  Isn't cabal-install where the
>> user-facing CLI side of this work is most likely to be landed?
>
>
> Backpack is also very exciting, indeed!
>
> That being said, assuming the minimal installer variant get dropped from
>> downloads, where is downloads/linux going to move to, and how will it be
>> discoverable in future?
>
>
> This a really important point.
>
> Does anyone know if the distributions listed on the HP Linux page have
> packaged the minimal platform? As it is right now, it appears that Windows
> and Mac send you to a page where you can choose either, but Linux only
> provides instructions for Full except under the Generic option.
>
> If distros start to package HP Minimal, I would propose replacing the
> Fedora and Arch instructions on downloads/linux with that, but we'll want
> to keep the Ubuntu instructions around due to your excellent PPA. I'm not
> sure how that should look concretely, though, given that it would
> essentially become a fourth option if HP Minimal replaces the current
> minimal installer section.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:35 AM, Francesco Ariis <fa-ml at ariis.it> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:05:49PM -0700, Adam Foltzer wrote:
>> > Since the HP Minimal fits such a similar niche, perhaps we could adapt
>> the
>> > existing minimal installer language in-place to point to HP Minimal,
>> rather
>> > than removing it. Then we could modify the existing HP section in-place
>> to
>> > clarify that it refers to HP Full.
>>
>> As having "deprecated" link in the download page is a no-no and warrants
>> a quick fix.
>>
>> Adam Foltzer's proposal is the most simple to implement (well, I should
>> say "has the least friction in a hotly debated topic"), hence most
>> reasonable to me.
>>
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