[Haskell-community] Haskell Platform as the default recommendation considered harmful

[Christopher Allen]

>I'm wondering if all this comes down to the time horizon. If a new HP is
out
with Stack in a few months, do you believe it's worth editing the downloads
page now? Or are you asking for it to happen now because you'd rather
something happen, than risk a delay where nothing happens?

Edit it now because the people who come to the site to learn how they
should install Haskell over the next few months matter. It should take a
couple minutes to make the change, I'd say edit it now to recommend the
existing Minimal GHC installation procedures that were in place. We can use
the previous versions as a baseline.

>Or are you asking for it to happen now because you'd rather something
happen, than risk a delay where nothing happens?

If Platform doesn't get fixed, that's on Platform. It's also a separate
problem. The downloads page should reflect the current, best understanding
of what's the most problem-free way for people, especially beginners who
can't evaluate or compare alternatives, to install GHC and the associated
kit. That has not been Platform for some time now. Is there a problem with
changing the downloads page now and changing it again months from now after
the alternative you're anticipating has been tested?

Is there anything blocking this? Do you need me to write the PR?


On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:19 AM, John Wiegley <johnw at newartisans.com>
wrote:

> >>>>> Christopher Allen <cma at bitemyapp.com> writes:
>
> > The committee has been bulldozing over the concerns of end-users for too
> > long and too many times. How is this the committee a body acting on
> behalf
> > of the community when everything the community says appears to go
> nowhere,
> > even on something as straight-forward as making sure the recommendations
> are
> > what works best and most often?
>
> If you would like to discuss the way the committee operates, can we do
> that in
> a separate thread? I'd prefer to focus on the Platform and download options
> here.
>
> I'm wondering if all this comes down to the time horizon. If a new HP is
> out
> with Stack in a few months, do you believe it's worth editing the downloads
> page now? Or are you asking for it to happen now because you'd rather
> something happen, than risk a delay where nothing happens?
>
> John
>



-- 
Chris Allen
Currently working on http://haskellbook.com
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