[Haskell-cafe] Haskell Usage

Wed Nov 15 21:06:16 UTC 2023

I will continue the thread on Haskell companies and share two more
resources that list names of companies using the language in production.
(although these resources may not be up-to-date, they provide valuable
insights into the market):
https://github.com/erkmos/haskell-companies
https://haskellcosm.com
Here are some additional statistics:
https://github.com/nh2/haskell-jobs-statistics#haskell-jobs-statistics
It is important to note that while Haskell is an excellent language, the
Blub paradox may prevent it from becoming mainstream.

λCheers,
Ida

śr., 15 lis 2023 o 21:59 Gregory Guthrie <guthrie at miu.edu> napisał(a):

> I am also a fan of Haskell, but finding a few usages really does not
> address the main comment and general reality. Perhaps looking at TIOBE or
> other data driven sources might give a more realistic view.
>
> Yes, each ranking (TIOBE IEEE, …) has its merits and issues, but overall,
> they do give some reality-based insights!
>
>
>
> https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
>
>   { Python, C, C++, Java, … Fortran (#12),, COBOL(#22), … Haskell (#39) …}
>
>
>
> https://spectrum.ieee.org/top-programming-languages-2022
>
>   { Python, C, C++, C#, Java, … Assembly (#18), … Haskell (#27), …}
>
>
>
> Not meant to prolong a flame-war discussion, just FYI to answer the
> original query.
>
> 😊
>
>
>
> Dr. Gregory Guthrie
>
>
>
> *From:* Haskell-Cafe <haskell-cafe-bounces at haskell.org> *On Behalf Of *Noon
> van der Silk
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2023 2:43 PM
> *To:* haskell-cafe at haskell.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell Usage
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>
>
> I'll just add that there are many companies that use Haskell in a
> professional setting (including the one I work for!) You can see a few at
> the bottom of the Haskell Foundation's website:
> https://haskell.foundation/.
>
>
>
> It's certainly an odd remark by your professor; but it also likely comes
> from their own experience; everyone has lived life in their own different
> way; maybe this person has just been exposed to more commercial Erlang than
> me; almost certainly :) So I would take the comment more with curiosity; to
> learn *why* they feel Erlang is more suitable; it's probably a good
> opportunity to learn something interesting!
>
>
>
> That said, I do think Haskell has an "academic" vibe that it will do well
> to shake off at some point!
>
>
>
> --
>
> Noon
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 at 20:25, Adrian Cochrane <adrian at openwork.nz> wrote:
>
> Hi from New Zealand!
>
> My Haskell usage is more hobbyist than academic or industrial, but I've
> got a massive personal project written in Haskell (a browser engine).
> And I'm actively for one of my upcoming contracts (a converter between
> metadata formats) to use Haskell!
>
> I find I'm more productive in Haskell, and that my code is of generally
> higher quality. Its certainly not a popular language (neither is Erlang)
> though, which I have to actively plan for when suggesting it for a
> project. But given the dominance of C/C++, does that count for much?
>
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> >     1. Haskell Usage (Henrique Caldeira)
> >     2. Re: Haskell Usage (Brandon Allbery)
> >     3. Re: Haskell Usage (Henning Thielemann)
> >     4. Re: Haskell Usage (Jo Durchholz)
> >     5. Re: Haskell Usage (MigMit)
> >     6. Re: Haskell Usage (Ivan Perez)
> >     7. Re: Haskell Usage (Jared Tobin)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 21:27:57 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
> > From: Henrique Caldeira <h.caldeira at ua.pt>
> > To: haskell-cafe at haskell.org
> > Subject: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell Usage
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> > Good Evening from Portugal,
> >
> > I write to you about the usage of Haskell because I had a professor
> recommending me Erlang instead because Haskell was "more for academic
> purposes", which left me wondering if all my time spent was spent only for
> curiosity sake.
> >
> > I want to know how true my professor's statement is.
> >
> > I am very passionate about Haskell, although I admit the ecosystem can
> be confusing sometimes (for example, when to use cabal or stack, which
> versions of packages to use in order to avoid conflicts, or simply
> installing them through nixos or arch can be a learning process).
> >
> > Would love to hear your thoughts about all of this and thank you with
> all my heart.
> >
> > Lastly, all these wonderings are asked in a curious, "wanting to learn
> more" mindset.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Henrique Caldeira
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> > Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 16:36:18 -0500
> > From: Brandon Allbery <allbery.b at gmail.com>
> > To: Henrique Caldeira <h.caldeira at ua.pt>
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> > Yesod (https://yesodweb.com), Servant (https://www.servant.dev), Pandoc
> (
> > https://pandoc.com), HLedger (https://hledger.org), and XMonad (
> > https://xmonad.org), among others, argue against Haskell being only an
> > academic language.
> >
> > (I'm the principal maintainer of xmonad, but not involved with the other
> > packages.)
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 4:28 PM Henrique Caldeira <h.caldeira at ua.pt>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Good Evening from Portugal,
> >>
> >> I write to you about the usage of Haskell because I had a professor
> >> recommending me Erlang instead because Haskell was "more for academic
> >> purposes", which left me wondering if all my time spent was spent only
> for
> >> curiosity sake.
> >>
> >> I want to know how true my professor's statement is.
> >>
> >> I am very passionate about Haskell, although I admit the ecosystem can
> be
> >> confusing sometimes (for example, when to use cabal or stack, which
> >> versions of packages to use in order to avoid conflicts, or simply
> >> installing them through nixos or arch can be a learning process).
> >>
> >> Would love to hear your thoughts about all of this and thank you with
> all
> >> my heart.
> >>
> >> Lastly, all these wonderings are asked in a curious, "wanting to learn
> >> more" mindset.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Henrique Caldeira
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