[Haskell-cafe] Status of ghcup?

Anthony Clayden anthony.d.clayden at gmail.com
Thu Feb 23 01:31:36 UTC 2023


> Sigh. As a college educator who is trying to use Haskell in as many
classes as possible, ...

> you better fire up Notepad.exe. ... some decent syntax highlighting,

Hi Todd, and Mig, I too feel your pain. And Windows seems to have always
been a neglected child in distros -- even when SPJ was actually sponsored
by MSoft.

If you're only trying to give a flavour of Haskell for (say) a few weeks
intro, I don't see that you even need all the drama of ghcup.

Perhaps just ignore what it says on the GHC download pages, and grab the
compiler plus minimal libraries. Then you can either defer a 'proper'
install until students are motivated enough to go through the pain; or
don't bother/they've gone on to other subjects.

I agree syntax highlighting is very helpful for newbies: I use NotePad++
for editing and not even VSCode for compiling, but GHCi.

I suspect these fully integrated dev environments are quite confusing for
newbies. (Unless they've already experienced them with other languages.)
Hard for me to be sure: they simply weren't a thing when I learned Haskell.
These days I have installed VSCode; I seldom use it (just way too much
clutter around the screen).


AntC
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