[Haskell-cafe] Status of ghcup?

[Curtis D'Alves]

After many years of dealing with Haskell install nonsense with student
after student, I started using replit. They support nix configuration to
install any dependencies you need and haskell language server in their
browser based IDE

Curtis D'Alves

On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 9:02 PM Mario J. Hesles <mariojlhm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Todd,
>
> Perhaps you could set everything up once on a server, create accounts for
> each of your students, and then just have them ssh into it and do their
> work remotely? It's not ideal, but it would be better than wasting so much
> time debugging boring install issues. The adventurous ones can try
> installing everything themselves.
>
> Sincerely,
> Mario J. Hesles
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 6:00 PM Todd Wilson <twilson at csufresno.edu> wrote:
>
>> Sigh. As a college educator who is trying to use Haskell in as many
>> classes as possible, I am still disheartened by how much effort is required
>> by students to get the toolchain and additional libraries installed and
>> working on their various platforms. I usually have to waste time during the
>> first two or three weeks of class (and this semester it has extended to
>> more than four) with students over this, whereas instead I should be able
>> to send out a link before my class begins and expect that almost all of
>> them will have everything installed on the first day. I know this topic has
>> been discussed here and elsewhere, and that there are efforts underway to
>> improve the situation, but I just want to make a plug again for easy
>> Haskell installation for beginners. Diversity in the ecosystem is great,
>> but for people trying to get started, there should be one simple and
>> surefire way to get up and running, with a clear path later for upgrading
>> the environment in any number of different directions.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 3:26 PM Dominick Samperi <djsamperi at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I watched an interesting YouTube video explaining how to install and use
>>> the Haskell extension in VS code, but the information appears to be
>>> obsolete, because there is no mention of ghcup, and ghcup is now
>>> required, along with a new version of the Haskell extension (the old one
>>> is labeled "legacy").
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I could not install ghcup on Windows due to obscure
>>> PowerShell
>>> security issues, or missing libraries in MSYS. While wrestling with this
>>> problem
>>> I discovered that Unix tools from Rtools must not be in PATH while
>>> working
>>> with Stack, probably due to incompatible MSYS versions. But removing
>>> Rtools
>>> from PATH does not resolve the ghcup installation problems.
>>>
>>> Any tips on ghcup installation under Windows would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dominick
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