[Haskell-cafe] haskell-ci problems

[Mikolaj Konarski]

> I have not received your message from 4:05 PM at all, nor the message
> from Tom Ellis that I see at

Apparently avoiding both spam and lost emails is impossible nowadays,
but I'm told the situation should improve after a recent upgrade,
update of a SPF record for one of mail.haskell.org servers and
gradually while our servers are regaining reputation.

For all of us on the list: let's not assume somebody that is repeating
our point has seen our email --- it may have been lost or withheld for
a time. Makes sense to ask for confirmation and also try to join
divergent threads of the same email discussion (if the topic did not
diverge).

On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 4:56 PM Simon Jakobi
<simon.jakobi at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Huh, I think there must be something amiss between mail.haskell.org and GMail.
>
> I have not received your message from 4:05 PM at all, nor the message
> from Tom Ellis that I see at
> https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2021-November/134848.html.
>
> Am Sa., 13. Nov. 2021 um 16:48 Uhr schrieb Mikolaj Konarski
> <mikolaj at well-typed.com>:
> >
> > Off-topic, would it be possible to reduce the latency of mail.haskell.org?
> >
> > It's quite frustrating if your message is a dupe and even more if it
> > seems as if the other person ignored your message and wrote the stuff
> > one again. While, in fact, the messages were 10 minutes in flight and
> > then arrived in reverse order.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 4:05 PM Mikolaj Konarski <mikolaj at well-typed.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > BTW, Sven, my sources say, running `haskell-ci 'github'` as opposed to
> > > `haskell-ci 'travis'` may give better results.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 2:39 PM Mikolaj Konarski <mikolaj at well-typed.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I can just offer testing haskell-ci patches etc.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you. I'm sure other haskell-ci contributors can use this help,
> > > > if they read this. In general, that's a great idea, supporting our
> > > > developers in other ways than just code contributions, e.g., via
> > > > general positivity, appreciation, goodwill, expressions of hope,
> > > > uplifting user stories. They are bombarded with (impersonal)
> > > > negativity all the time via bug reports.
> > > >
> > > > > The project I used as a trial balloon for haskell-ci is really dead simple, how are other projects handling this? It must be an extremely common use case, and I doubt that everybody writes the workflows by hand: This would be silly, basically all needed information is already in the .cabal file.
> > > >
> > > > I'm afraid, since hvr stopped updating the PPA images (and other
> > > > things), the Haskell tool ecosystem is in the very sorry and silly
> > > > state you describe. Given that at this stage it's too late to help
> > > > hvr, let's make sure to support Julian with ghcup (and other things)
> > > > so that our ecosystem doesn't break up again, once we port haskell-ci
> > > > to ghcup (if I'm guessing correctly where haskell-ci is going).
> > > >
> > > > > Other projects like e.g. lens seem to use haskell-ci successfully, see https://github.com/ekmett/lens/blob/master/.github/workflows/haskell-ci.yml. But that YAML file looks quite a bit different from what haskell-ci has generated for my project. Why?
> > > >
> > > > Because it's been edited by hand for 11 months.
> > > >
> > > > > As usual, the Haskell tool ecosystem is giving me a hard time... :´-(
> > > >
> > > > I sympathise.
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > > Mikolaj
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