[Haskell-cafe] Package Takeover: `toml`

[amindfv at mailbox.org]

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 05:27:57AM +0000, Emily Pillmore wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> I have been eyeing a remake of this package for a long time for some of my projects. To be clear: there is no fire that needs to be put out, but I do have a need. The package has been out of commission for 7 years, and there are certainly no relevant downstream dependencies at this point. Do you have a source repository or existing code that I could see or make use of in the interim period between now and a release?

Again, trying to be respectful here, but "burning" kinda does imply "fire," and "need" certainly does imply "need." It's now seeming more just like a desire for the package name.

If you're looking for a modern TOML parser asap, I'd recommend one of these popular ones:

https://hackage.haskell.org/package/htoml
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/tomland
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/toml-parser

The last one is probably most similar to the `toml` package. It's great. `htoml` was also based on `toml`.

If none of these fits the bill, there are more on Hackage.

Tom

> 
> I'm genuinely surprised there was someone else made maintainer of the package without a public takeover. When/how did this happen? Did I miss the takeover announcement? Carter and I were looking into this in February of last year, and the need arose again, so I brought it up today.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> E
> 
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:09 AM, < amindfv at mailbox.org > wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 11:43:14PM -0500, Carter Schonwald wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Are you talking about tomland ??
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > No, I'm talking about https:/ / hackage. haskell. org/ package/ toml (
> > https://hackage.haskell.org/package/toml ).
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> There’s no GitHub url on the toml package from 2014 ...
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I think the main priority here is having a canonically good toml lib for
> >> the community, in a good name space, That meets our needs robustly (I
> >> think emily has some interesting AND WORTHY uses in mind).
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Can you share the dev repo?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> To be clear: this is in the context hackage is a public commons and its
> >> name space is a resource. Do you have any immediate plans/needs for that
> >> specific package name?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> If not, we promise to give some excellent code a great home in the toml
> >> name space if you hand it over. Everyone will be happy and joyous at the
> >> resulting work that emily will facilitate. And dogs will dance in the
> >> streets and children will smile.
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Respectfully, this conversation started because of the claim "I have a
> > burning need." I actually cancelled a plan I had tonight because I wanted
> > to be sure I could be responsive if there was some system going down
> > because of e.g. an outdated set of dependencies. Now the discussion is
> > about how "toml" is a nice name and there are interesting ideas for as-yet
> > unwritten code.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If there really is a burning need, I'm still around. Otherwise I'm feeling
> > a bit duped.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> If you still have any residual concerns, emily and I are happy to hop on a
> >> video chat to solve worries therof.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Cheers!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -Carter
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Thu, Mar 11 , 2021 at 11:15 PM amindfv@ mailbox. org (
> >> amindfv at mailbox.org ) < amindfv@ mailbox. org ( amindfv at mailbox.org ) >
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I'm in the middle of a package overhaul. If there's a burning need for
> >>> fixes please get in touch (off-list?) and let me know what you need.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Tom
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:36:27PM -0500, Carter Schonwald wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> If you’re the maintainer of
> >>>> https:/ / hackage. haskell. org/ package/ toml (
> >>>> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/toml ) could you give emily
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> maintainer /
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> upload perms ? It really needs a new lead :) 2014 is a long time ago
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> (I co wrote the email to spiros way back when. Any progress on this would
> >>>> be great)
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 11 , 2021 at 10:05 PM amindfv--- via Haskell-Cafe < haskell-cafe@
> >>>> haskell. org ( haskell-cafe at haskell.org ) > wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 02:13:12AM +0000, Emily Pillmore wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> To whom it may concern,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I'd like to take over maintenance of the package `toml`. I have a
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> burning need. I tried to contact Spiros a year ago, but no response
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> has
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> come. The last release was 2017, and it's safe to say the package is
> >>>>> totally abandoned. My hackage user is topos.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hi, I'm a maintainer of `toml`. What do you need?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Tom
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
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> >>>> 
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