[Haskell-cafe] Some questions about Fudgets library

[Antonio]

Thanks! Will take a look at it.

Greetings,

Antonio

El Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 05:20:57PM -0500, Ivan Perez escribió:
> Hi Antonio,
> 
> I've long envisioned a reimplementation of Fudgets using Monadic Stream
> Functions [1].
> 
> MSFs are like Yampa's SFs but with constrained side effects and without the
> mandatory continuous time (but you can put it back).
> 
> I don't think there is a fundamental limitation other than finding the time
> to do it. Sometimes there's issues with implementing arr in these kinds of
> systems (because it lifts a pure function and so it creates a widget with
> uninitialized state), but it can be worked out.
> Ping me up if you want to talk about this. I was going to do something
> along these lines by the end of my PhD, so I thought a bit about how to do
> it. I also did some experiments for application debugging that used similar
> ideas.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Ivan
> 
> [1] https://github.com/ivanperez-keera/dunai/
> 
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 17:13, Antonio <chikitosan at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I wonder why there is no Fudgets package in Hackage.
> >
> > I found this, but the fudgets link is broken:
> >
> > http://hackage.haskell.org/user/ThomasHallgren
> >
> > Nevertheless, there is a cabalized package in the Fudgets homepage, so
> > it's strange it's not in Hackage.
> >
> > Also, is there an arrowized version of Fudgets? If not, why? Is there some
> > fundamental reason that makes it impossible to port it to the arrows
> > framework or simply nobody cared to port it? (Also, the license seems to
> > not allow modifications.)
> >
> > I'm trying to write a bittorrent client in Haskell. I decided to use
> > arrows for it and took a look at Fudgets and Yampa. I haven't decided yet
> > which one to use. Fudgets seems more suitable and I like it more, but the
> > fact that it doesn't use the arrow notation and classes is a bit annoying.
> >
> > I read that Fruit is more or less a mix of Fudgets and Yampa that uses
> > arrows. Sadly, it's unmaintained, the web doesn't exist and it's not in
> > Hackage. Is there any other Fudgets-like option?
> >
> > Greetings.
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