[Haskell-cafe] Global fixity (our status quo) vs. local fixity

Jeffrey Brown jeffbrown.the at gmail.com
Mon Oct 19 20:49:31 UTC 2015


Adam: Sweet! Are there implementations in Haskell?

Francesco: here is the problem that spurred me to write this email:

Tidal uses a |+| operator to conjoin what it calls OscPatterns. For
instance, you can write:

  d1 $ sound "bd sn" |+| speed "3" |+| pan "1"

to tell the sampler named d1, "play the bd (bass drum) sample at phase 0
and the sn (snare drum) sample at pahse 1/2. Speed both up by a factor of
3, and pan both to the right speaker". (Phase takes values in the interval
[0,1); upon reaching 1, a new cycle begins at 0.)

Tidal offers functions for changing patterns.  For instance, to slow down
by a factor of 2 the frequency at which samples are triggered (that's how
often a sample is played, not its playback speed), you can write this:

  d1 $ (slow 2 $ sound "bd sn") |+| speed "3" |+| pan "1"

Every instruction issued to d1 is a chain of |+|-separated OscPatterns. I
often want to thread OscPatterns through functions before conjoining them.
I therefore would like to be able to explain to Tidal that in whatever it
finds to the right of a statement beginning with "d1 $", it should bind |+|
after $. Then I would not need so many parentheses.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Francesco Ariis <fa-ml at ariis.it> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:39:04PM -0700, Jeffrey Brown wrote:
> > Does anybody else think it would be nice if a library's author had only
> to
> > decide its operators' precedence relative to each other, and could let
> > users decide for themselves how fast its operators should bind relative
> to
> > operators from another library?
>
> It is true that fixity is ordinal, not cardinal, but I guess letting the
> user decide for themselves how to blend operators from different libraries
> could lead to a fragmentation where I will find difficult to
> read/interpret your code and viceversa.
>
> Can you make an example where the 10 levels of precedence (plus function
> application) wasn't enough for you/other devs?
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Jeffrey Benjamin Brown
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