[Haskell-cafe] Scala at position 25 of the Tiobe index, Haskell dropped

[Christopher Allen]

I work with a lot of Haskell beginners and the Cabal problems went away
when sandboxes were added to Cabal and the learners started using a sandbox
for every project.

I've only seen a handful (one hand, 5 fingers) of problems since then that
weren't attributable to, "wasn't using a sandbox". Of those, about half
were the user doing something uncommon/unusual.

I have a tutorial here http://howistart.org/posts/haskell/1 which among
other things, covers the basics of using sandboxes.

Library maturity is my only worry with production Haskell. Not enough
eyeballs and all that. It's not enough to stop me or my colleagues using it
in production though. I can fix libraries, I can't fix Scala.



On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Joe Hillenbrand <joehillen at gmail.com>
wrote:

> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Gregory Guthrie <guthrie at mum.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > And in my experience the cabal problems are the "fatal-flaw";
>
> Big +1 here. Cabal is the biggest thing keeping me from aggressively
> promoting Haskell in industry. The risk of promoting Haskell now is
> that people will try out Haskell, hit a cabal issue, give up, and then
> form a bad opinion of Haskell because of it.
>
> There is saying "If a user has a bad experience, that's a bug."
>
> I've been patiently awaiting the Backpack overhaul before promoting
> Haskell in the workplace. [1]
>
> [1] https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/Backpack
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