[Haskell-cafe] How to have a managed window unfocusable?

Magicloud Magiclouds magicloud.magiclouds at gmail.com
Mon Jul 7 02:57:25 UTC 2014

Thank you for the explanation. I always thought "focus" was managed by WM.

Is "above" also controlled by X instead of WM? I tried to patch the code of
the clock to manage itself (keep itself topmost), but did not seem to work.

On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Brandon Allbery <allbery.b at gmail.com>

> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Magicloud Magiclouds <
> magicloud.magiclouds at gmail.com> wrote:
>>   I'd like to have a transparent clock floating on my desktop.
>>   If I made it ignored (unmanaged), it would not be above and would be
>> blocked by other windows.
>>   If I made it managed and float, when I floated up and down, it would be
>> focused and I needed to press hotkey again to move focus to correct window.
>>   Anyway I could manage it, but not focusing on it?
> This is difficult, because X11 expects that the way you do this is to
> unmanage it *and* that a window that is unmanaged knows how to manage
> itself. In particular, the X server may well send focus to a managed window
> *itself* via its window focus inheritance policy. The best xmonad could do
> would be to use a handleEventHook to detect the window being given focus
> (this might be rather difficult because focusIn and focusOut events are not
> currently delivered by the Haskell X11 bindings, sigh) and send focus
> elsewhere --- but in that case the window would still briefly receive focus.
> You probably need to find a clock program that knows how to operate as an
> unmanaged window.
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