[Haskell-cafe] GHC maintenance on Arch

Rickey Visinski rickeyvisinski at gmail.com
Sun Oct 28 22:30:25 CET 2012


Fyi, the is a specific arch-haskell mailing list which will probably get
you a better answer to your question.  I cc'd them for you.

~Rickey

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Clark Gaebel <cgaebel at uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

> Personally, I like the latest version of GHC being in the repository, as
> that's the version I normally use.
>
> What packages aren't working for you on 7.6? I find that they get updated
> pretty quickly, and if you run into any that aren't, feel free to send the
> authors a pull request. Almost everything is on github.
>
>     - Clark
>
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:49 PM, <timothyhobbs at seznam.cz> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> Who is in charge of the ghc and haskell packages on Arch linux?  The
>> current system isn't working.
>>
>> Arch linux tends to update packages very quickly.
>>
>> For ghc, always having the latest ghc isn't a good thing.  At least if
>> you actually want to get some work done.  A majority of the time the latest
>> GHC is unusable. This is because the packages in hackage simply don't keep
>> up.  With the current ghc version(7.6.1) even some basic packages in
>> hackage are not upgraded yet.
>>
>> Right now, a large number of other haskell related packages are in the
>> arch repos. Other than gtk2hs, I think these packages are pointless
>> duplications.  In the other cases, it has been my experience that it is
>> simpler to maintain these packages through cabal rather than through
>> pacman.  Support for these packages in Arch should probably be dropped.
>>
>> If you want to get work done in Arch with haskell, you should only
>> install ghc and cabal-install(right now, you'll have to search the Internet
>> for the old binaries, because the arch repos usually don't keep the old
>> versions around).  Then you should add these packages to "IgnorePkg =" in
>> pacman.conf  this way things won't break every couple of months.  You can
>> then choose to upgrade when you wish.
>>
>> I hope that someone who is involved with the haskell Arch stuff reads
>> this.  The current model needs to be rethought.  Linux should be sane by
>> default, but I've lost many many hours learning that arch's relationship
>> with haskell is not so :(  Probably the best solution would be to make Arch
>> automatically keep two versions of ghc around at any given time.
>>
>> Thank you for your time,
>> Timothy Hobbs
>>
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