[Haskell-cafe] Haskell development in Mac OS X after Gatekeeper

Jack Henahan jhenahan at uvm.edu
Mon Feb 20 03:04:30 CET 2012

Well, the command-line tools are now available as a standalone package[1] separate from Xcode[2], so Apple's taken notice of and responded positively to large efforts like Homebrew and MacRuby. With that in mind, I don't think it's unreasonable to think this support also applies to other users of those tools, although the overall impact on source building is unclear so far. I haven't been able to find anything specific to that, yet.

But Gatekeeper isn't for programmers and the like. It's for people who don't even know where the menu option is. That's why there's an option to shut it off.

What's your setup like that you can't even use gdb in your own directory? That sounds unusual. And you can turn off the warning, either globally or selectively.[3][4]

[1]: http://kennethreitz.com/xcode-gcc-and-homebrew.html
[2]: https://developer.apple.com/downloads/index.action
[3]: http://osxdaily.com/2010/03/29/disable-the-are-you-sure-you-want-to-open-this-file-warning-dialogue-in-mac-os-x/
[4]: http://osxdaily.com/2010/09/12/disable-application-downloaded-from-the-internet-message-in-mac-os-x/

Jack Henahan
jhenahan at uvm.edu
Computer science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes.
-- Michael R. Fellows
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On Feb 19, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Richard O'Keefe wrote:

> On 20/02/2012, at 1:01 PM, Tom Murphy wrote:
>> Does anyone know what this will mean for the future of Haskell
>> development in OS X?:
>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/mountain-lion/security.html
> Quoting that document:
> 	Or you can install all apps from anywhere,
> 	just as you can today.  You can even temporarily
> 	override your setting by Control-clicking, and
> 	install any app at any time. Gatekeeper leaves it all up to you.
> So in the *short* term, it makes little difference.
>> 1) Writing software for widespread use (a security setting is to only
>> run software from the App Store, and I'd like to have my software
>> function on users' computers.)
> *Short* term, the most that will happen is that people will have to
> say "yeah yeah I know just let me have it OK?".
> Already in 10.6 there was this nagging feature where you click on a
> downloaded document and it says "this was downloaded, do you really
> want to open it" and it takes a painfully long time bouncing in the
> dock before that dialogue box comes up.
> Heck, I have to provide an administrator account & password when I
> want to run GDB in my own directory on my own program.  (And you
> have to love the way they removed the MacOS equivalent of truss
> because it was superceded by DTrace, but you have to be superuser
> to use DTrace...)
> *Short* term, it's just more continuing low-level harassment by
> Apple (even if perhaps with good intentions).  Long term, well,
> there's a reason why I keep Solaris, Linux, and OpenBSD around...
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