[Haskell-cafe] Re: Should Yesod.Mail be a separate package?

Kevin Jardine kevinjardine at gmail.com
Sun Oct 17 04:29:18 EDT 2010

Hi Robert,

I did look at HaskellNet a few months ago.

It looked big and undocumented so I guess I got scared away.

What I'd be interested in is something with the simplicity of the PHP
mail command (or perhaps the phpmailer package).

I dislike PHP as a programming language but it does basic web
functions like outgoing email fairly well.

Perhaps HaskellNet just needs more documentation and examples?


On Oct 17, 10:05 am, Robert Wills <wrwi... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Last summer I put cabalized HaskellNet (written by Jun Mukai for a
> GSOC) (http://hackage.haskell.org/package/HaskellNet)
> and uploaded it to hackage.  I put myself down as a maintainer but I
> haven't done much maintaining.
> HaskellNet also does multipart mime and base64 stuff as well as imap
> and pop access.  I haven't looked at Michael's package yet -- I'll
> have a look this morning
> to compare.
> I've been meaning to add try to tls support to HaskellNet.
> I don't have any huge attachment to HaskellNet so I'd be happy to just
> help to migrate the useful bits of it to some larger official email
> package.
> -Rob
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Kevin Jardine <kevinjard... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Michael,
> > Last time I checked Hackage for email libraries I could find some
> > basic SMTP systems but nothing very recent or robust.
> > Practically every web app needs to send email, so I think that a
> > robust and well maintained email package would be very useful.
> > I know you have many other projects going at the minute, but if you
> > had a chance to create a stand alone email package, I'd be interested
> > in trying it out.
> > I've been working on a web app engine that combines Heist from Snap
> > and several of the WAI packages with an object store system I've
> > developed myself (and will release on Hackage at some point). Email
> > was a missing piece and it sounds like your package could fill the gap
> > nicely.
> > Kevin
> > On Oct 17, 8:11 am, Michael Snoyman <mich... at snoyman.com> wrote:
> >> Hey all,
> >> I wrote a simple email module in Yesod[1] that handles such things as
> >> multipart messages and Base64 encoding. It's still missing some
> >> features (multipart/alternative, for instance), but it can be useful
> >> for throwing together emails. It's currently part of the yesod
> >> package, but I'm going to be moving it to a separate package to free
> >> me up to make breaking API changes more frequently.
> >> As of right now, I'm just going to move it into the yesod-auth package
> >> (also being split off from the main yesod package), and therefore it
> >> will still have all the dependencies on Yesod. My question is whether
> >> people would find this package useful outside the scope of Yesod.
> >> There are no dependencies from this module onto any Yesod-specific
> >> stuff, so this separation could easily be done. I just don't feel like
> >> adding another package to maintain if no one is interested.
> >> So if anyone wants this offered up as a separate package, and/or has
> >> any API suggestions, please let me know.
> >> Michael
> >> [1]http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/yesod/0.5.4/doc/html/Yeso...
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