[Haskell-cafe] Re: Libraries for Commercial Users

Gregory Crosswhite gcross at phys.washington.edu
Thu Oct 8 15:00:19 EDT 2009

Out of curiosity, why do you think that porting Haskell to the JVM  
would make such a large difference?  Haskell can already interface  
with C libraries;  are there really so many commercially vital  
libraries that are JVM-only?


On Oct 8, 2009, at 11:08 AM, John A. De Goes wrote:

> Some of these are not ready for production use; e.g.: RESTng:  
> "RESTng is still experimental and incomplete". It has no  
> documentation and doesn't even compile. Sadly typical.
> It's a bit of a chicken and egg thing. I'd switch to Haskell in a  
> commercial setting if there were more good libraries, yet the act of  
> switching would lead to the production of more good libraries. The  
> latter, though, is cost-prohibitive, given all the components that  
> would need to be developed. A few years from now, or post Haskell-on- 
> JVM, I might be singing a different tune.
> I do greatly admire the work you and your company have done for  
> Haskell.
> What has the Industrial Haskell group done so far? I haven't seen  
> any announcements. The work I'd be most interested in helping co- 
> sponsor is Haskell on JVM (biggest bang for the buck).
> Regards,
> John A. De Goes
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> On Oct 8, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Don Stewart wrote:
>> john:
>>> 	* Haskell interfaces to Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, Google, etc.
>> This one is fine:
>> twitter
>>       hs-twitter library: Haskell binding to the Twitter API
>> del.icio.us
>>       delicious library: Accessing the del.icio.us APIs from  
>> Haskell (v2)
>> friendfeed
>>       ffeed library and programs: Haskell binding to the FriendFeed  
>> API
>> LiveJournal
>>       feed2lj program: Cross-post any RSS/Atom feed to LiveJournal
>> flickr
>>       flickr library and programs: Haskell binding to the Flickr API
>> amazon
>>       hS3 library and program: Interface to Amazon's Simple Storage  
>> Service (S3)
>> mediawiki
>>       mediawiki library and programs: Interfacing with the  
>> MediaWiki API
>> google pubsub
>>       pubsub library and programs: A library for Google/SixApart  
>> pubsub hub interaction
>> Speaking of REST,
>> RESTng library: A framework for writing RESTful applications.
>> And auth:
>> WindowsLive
>>    windowslive library and program: Implements Windows Live Web  
>> Authentication and Delegated Authentication
>> OpenID
>>   openid library: An implementation of the OpenID-2.0 spec.
>> OAuth
>>   hoauth library and program: A Haskell implementation of OAuth  
>> 1.0a protocol.
>> We've obviously not all there yet, but we have a way to get there --
>> write and improve code on Hackage. Galois is doing its part (we've
>> released dozens of web packages), but the other commercial users  
>> need to
>> help out too.
>> Join the Industrial Haskell Group and fund open source work. Or, if  
>> you
>> can, release some of the non-IP-encumbered things you work on!
>> -- Don
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