[Haskell-cafe] killer app sought

[Keith Sheppard]

IMO google web toolkit has done this for Java and I haven't tried it
but maybe http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell_in_web_browser
does or will do this for Haskell. I still think that there is a place
for web applications that are smart on the server side though.

Best
-Keith

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Alberto G. Corona <agocorona at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, Maybe The piece of the web that desperately need a boost in
> performance, declarativeness, safety, static typing threading, modularity
> etc etc etc  is the Web Browser.
>
> 2009/10/4 John A. De Goes <john at n-brain.net>
>>
>> With few exceptions, no such thing as a killer server-side app.
>>
>> The Web 3.0 paradigm is simple: all work except sharing and persistence of
>> data is done on the client.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John A. De Goes
>> N-Brain, Inc.
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>> On Oct 3, 2009, at 9:08 PM, Mark Wotton wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've been writing a little binding from Ruby to Haskell called Hubris
>>> (http://github.com/mwotton/Hubris) which I think has some potential both for
>>> making Haskell web apps easier to write, and also for bringing the more
>>> adventurous Ruby programmers into the Haskell community. Code-wise it's
>>> coming along nicely, and once 6.12 is out it'll run without modifications at
>>> least on Linux (remains to be seen how long it'll take to get the Mac
>>> patches into shape). My real problem is marketing: I need a killer app that
>>> shows it's easy either to
>>>
>>> 1. wrap a kickarse Haskell library in a convenient Ruby web app shell
>>> 2. speed up a poorly performing Ruby web app
>>>
>>> I've been badgering the Ruby guys in Sydney that I know on the second
>>> point, but either none of them have performance problems, or none of them
>>> want to admit it. The first is entirely possible - if you only attack the
>>> subset of problems where your runtime is dominated by the database and
>>> network latency, language performance is moot. Conversely, if that's your
>>> worldview, the other problems that could be attacked won't ever come to mind
>>> (to monstrously abuse the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis).
>>>
>>> So, I'm asking you guys. What are some really nice Haskell libraries or
>>> apps that could benefit from being shown off in one of the plethora of
>>> slick, mature web frameworks that exist in Ruby? Manuel Chakravarty
>>> suggested something with vector operations in order to take advantage of his
>>> 'accelerate' library (once it gets a GPU backend, of course), and more
>>> generally, something taking advantage of Haskell's support for multicore
>>> would be cool. (The standard edition of Ruby is still unicore, I believe.)
>>>
>>> Parenthetically yours,
>>> Mark
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