[Haskell-cafe] Market Place for Haskell development teams?

Thomas Hartman tphyahoo at gmail.com
Fri Oct 2 05:12:30 EDT 2009

Hey, first of all, in terms of a platform for promoting haskell
commercially, happstutorial.com actually implements a job board.

Yeah, it's primitive and not feature complete, but on hackage, open
source, and ready for anyone who would like to work on it. (Currently
maintained by creighton hogg.)

This was my baby in 2008, when I was looking to foster happs for web
development, as a sort of "smarter" ruby on rails, which I am using in
the field in patch-tag.com.

2, the haskell-startup google group at


It's private, to encourage slightly more courageous business talk away
from the panoptic gaze of google, but I approve pretty much anyone who
doesn't want in and isn't a bot.

Yes. Let's create a world with more jobs for haskell developers, and
better software for everyone :)


2009/10/1 Curt Sampson <cjs at starling-software.com>:
> On 2009-09-29 13:18 +0200 (Tue), Alberto G. Corona  wrote:
>> What is the vehicle that haskell can use to enter the mainstream?.
> Actually, I have one more thought on that: wait.
> I'd had the impression that Haskell was becoming fairly well known (if
> not yet heavily used, in comparison to languages like Java), but I just
> ran across some hard evidence for this.
> In the 32 languages ranked on http://www.langpop.com/ , Haskell
> consistently comes down near the bottom in the various rankings of
> use. (But hey, we're not so weird we're not in there!) But if you look
> down near the bottom, at the chart labeled "Normalized Discussion Site
> Results," you'll notice that Haskell comes out sixth. Even trying to be
> more fair to the mainstream, and changing the weighting to drop Lambda
> the Ultimate completely (after all, they're just a bunch of academic
> wankers, right?) and bring IRC down to a contribution of 0.5 instead of
> 1 (apparently those academic wankers have lots of time to chat online),
> Haskell still comes out tenth, with a score over a third that of the
> leader, Java, and close to half that of PHP and C (2nd and 3rd place,
> respectively).
> We've also got at least one undeniably good, production-quality compiler
> (which is more than PHP or Ruby can say), and have sold many tens of
> thousands, perhaps even hundreds of thousands, of books. At this point,
> I don't think many people (John A. De Goes excepted) are looking at
> people writing major applications in Haskell as if they're aliens living
> on another planet.
> Haskell is in the mainstream already as far as being taken seriously;
> most of the complaints I'm seeing seem to be grasping at the same kinds
> of straws that the anti-Java guys were back in the late '90s. ("It's
> hopeless if it uses garbage collection.")
> We've even got our own over-hyped, under-utilized supposed benefit
> ("it's good for multicore").
> The main whinging seems to be about libraries, of which we have "only"
> 1585 on hackage.
> Compare with RubyForge, which has 2059 projects in "beta" or better
> status, or 2961 if we include "alpha" as well. The Ruby Application
> Archive has 1768 projects; I have no idea how much overlap there is, or
> how many of these are real.
> I think we just need to sit tight for a couple of years.
> cjs
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