[Haskell-cafe] What's the deal with Clean?

[Roman Leshchinskiy]

On 05/11/2009, at 04:01, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:

> oh, can we stop saying about shootout? if you want to see speed of
> pure haskell code, look at papers about fast arrays/strings - their
> authors have measured that lazy lists are hundreds times slower than
> idiomatic C code. is use of lazy lists counted as mistake too and
> paper authors had too small haskell experience?

In the papers I coauthored, I don't think we measured any such thing.  
What we measured was that in algorithms that are best implemented with  
(unboxed) arrays, using boxed lists is going to cost you. That's not a  
very surprising conclusion and it's by no means specific to Haskell.  
The problem was/is the lack of nice purely declarative array libraries  
but that changing, albeit slowly. It's a question of using the right  
data structure for the algorithm, not a C vs. Haskell thing.

Roman