[Haskell-cafe] Native CLient

[David Leimbach]

Ah, I see now.  Thanks for going deeper on that.

I did eventually find the RPC stuff for Go, and thought that that might be
interesting to implement.

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Joan Miller <peloko45 at gmail.com> wrote:

> "Each component runs in its own private address space. Inter-component
> communication is based on Native Client’s reliable datagram service,
> the IMC (Inter-Module Communications). For communications between the
> browser and a NaCl module, Native Client provides two options: a
> Simple RPC facility (SRPC), and the Netscape Plugin Application
> Programming Interface (NPAPI), both implemented on top of the IMC. The
> IMC also provides shared memory segments and shared synchronization
> objects, intended to avoid messaging overhead for high-volume or
> high-frequency communications." [1]
>
> The Native Client modules can communicate with the browser using
> either NPAPI or simple RPC (SRPC) [2] so there would be that implement
> that in Haskell.
>
>
> [1]
> http://nativeclient.googlecode.com/svn/data/docs_tarball/nacl/googleclient/native_client/documentation/nacl_paper.pdf
> [2]
> http://nativeclient.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/native_client/documentation/npapi.html
>
>
> 2009/12/29 David Leimbach <leimy2k at gmail.com>:
> > I guess I'm confused by what it means to "support" this in a language.
> > My understanding is this is using lightweight virtualization technology
> > (perhaps via segment register hacks on x86, and something else on ARM) to
> > provide a safe sandbox to run native code in a browser.  If I had to
> guess,
> > I'd say you could run an entire virtualized OS in there, similar to the
> way
> > it was done for vx32 with the Plan 9 port to it.  (9vx is a port of the
> plan
> > 9 operating system to vx32, allowing it to run as a user process on
> linux,
> > freebsd, and Mac OS X)
> > Are you talking about porting the GHC Haskell runtime to NaCL?  If so,
> then
> > I think I understand, but the language itself doesn't really need to do
> > anything special to support this as far as I can tell.
> > Dave
> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Joan Miller <peloko45 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Native CLient (NaCl) [1] is a technology very cool which lets to run
> >> native code in web applications, and it's being integrated in some
> >> languages as Python [2]. Go [3] already has rudimentary support for
> >> Native Client (and it's logical since that both technologies are from
> >> Google)
> >>
> >> I hope that Haskell also gets support for NaCl and doesn't loose this
> >> train else a language as Go could get every time more users that until
> >> now they had gone to Haskell or Erlang mainly for its concurrency.
> >>
> >>
> >> [1] http://code.google.com/p/nativeclient/
> >> [2]
> >>
> http://lackingrhoticity.blogspot.com/2009/06/python-standard-library-in-native.html
> >> [3] http://golang.org/pkg/exp/nacl/
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