[Haskell-cafe] Re: ANNOUNCE: Utrecht Haskell Compiler (UHC) -- first release

[Lennart Augustsson]

I don't think that other languages failing should be an excuse for
Haskell to be equally bad.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Miguel Mitrofanov
<miguelimo38 at yandex.ru> wrote:
> Well, the problem is that every implementor does choose a subset of standart
> to implement.
>
> It's much worse in JavaScript - essential features working differently in
> Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opera, and Safari, and sometimes they even
> differ between versions; Web programmers still manage. (n+k)-patterns are
> nothing compared to that.
>
> Lennart Augustsson wrote on 20.04.2009 15:17:
>>
>> If every implementor got to choose what subset of the standard to
>> implement that all code would have have to written in the implemented
>> intersection.  I think that's a terrible idea.
>> The Haskell98 standard was set so there would be a baseline that
>> people could rely on.
>>
>> When I implemented Haskell (both times) there were odds and ends that
>> I really hated (some of those feelings have changed), but I did it
>> anyway.
>>
>>  -- Lennart
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Bulat Ziganshin
>> <bulat.ziganshin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Jon,
>>>
>>> Monday, April 20, 2009, 1:59:07 PM, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's not an implementor's place to make such decisions --
>>>> they can legitimately say "this feature sucks" and tell the
>>>> next Haskell committee so. If they care enough about it,
>>>> they can lobby or get on that next committee, but the
>>>> arguments for n+k patterns /in Haskell98/ were done long
>>>> ago.
>>>
>>> if you really believe in that you said, you can spend your own time
>>> adding its support :)  i never seen n+k patterns in real code so i
>>> understand developers that don't want to waste time just to compliant
>>> standard even if their efforts will be never really used
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>>  Bulat                            mailto:Bulat.Ziganshin at gmail.com
>>>
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