[Haskell-cafe] CAL (OpenQuark) and enterprise

fero frantisek.kocun at gmail.com
Wed Jul 16 05:19:27 EDT 2008


Nice:)



Daniil Elovkov wrote:
> 
> fero wrote:
>> And what if writing new application? Has anybody experience with
>> enterprise
>> application in functional language? Is it really clearer? I can see a
>> advantage in using Scala but it doesn't have some features from Haskell
>> or
>> CAL or requires more code to write. Or better has anybody experience with
>> the same and functional language for JVM? And what about ORM (e.g.
>> Hibernate)? And what about objects, they are stateful itself. And CRUD is
>> a
>> very common part of enterprise applications and I think it's easier in
>> imperative style (client is declarative of course but it assigns values
>> to
>> fields). I am interested in ours opinions/experience in business logic
>> (not
>> any infrastructure or client stuff) for apps such as
>> accounting/bank/insurance/document management... systems in functional
>> languages. Sometimes the rules for these kind of apps is more complex
>> that
>> it seem to be and such systems are maintained for many years (some even
>> decades) so it needs to be readable. Rule engines are very popularized
>> among
>> java community now but I think many logic can be expressed clearer in
>> functions. It is maybe useful for some kind of logic (e.g. calculate
>> price
>> with discounts) but for what I do I can write the same clearer in java
>> that
>> in rule engine (and much clearer in Haskell and I am only beginner. What
>> will come after few years coding;). 
>> 
> 
> You may start writing more obscure code.
> 
> Look at this:
> http://www.willamette.edu/~fruehr/haskell/evolution.html
> 
> This is humour, of course.
> 
>> 
>> Miles Sabin wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Neil Mitchell <ndmitchell at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On the Haskell list I think its fair to say everyone recommends you
>>>> should use Haskell.
>>> Not necessarily. If the OP has a significant body of existing Java
>>> code (s)he has to work with (which is what the question suggests) then
>>> Scala would most likely be a very good place to look.
>>>
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