[Haskell-cafe] monads and groups -- instead of loops

Greg Meredith lgreg.meredith at biosimilarity.com
Wed Aug 1 13:12:32 EDT 2007


Andrew,

;-) Agreed! As i said in my previous post, i can't address the imperative
programmer. i really don't think that way and have a hard time understanding
people who do! (-;

Best wishes,

--greg

On 8/1/07, Andrew Wagner <wagner.andrew at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's great, unless the imperative programmer happens to be one of
> the 90% of programmers that isn't particularly familiar with group
> theory...
>
> On 8/1/07, Greg Meredith <lgreg.meredith at biosimilarity.com> wrote:
> > Haskellians,
> >
> > Though the actual metaphor in the monads-via-loops doesn't seem to fly
> with
> > this audience, i like the spirit of the communication and the implicit
> > challenge: find a pithy slogan that -- for a particular audience, like
> > imperative programmers -- serves to uncover the essence of the notion. i
> > can't really address that audience as my first real exposure to
> programming
> > was scheme and i moved into concurrency and reflection after that and
> only
> > ever used imperative languages as means to an end. That said, i think i
> > found another metaphor that summarizes the notion for me. In the same
> way
> > that the group axioms organize notions of symmetry, including addition,
> > multiplication, reflections, translations, rotations, ... the monad(ic
> > axioms) organize(s) notions of snapshot (return) and update (bind),
> > including state, i/o, control, .... In short
> >
> > group : symmetry :: monad : update
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > --greg
> >
> > --
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>



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L.G. Meredith
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505 N 72nd St
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