GHC and the future of Freenode

Carter Schonwald carter.schonwald at
Wed May 19 15:48:55 UTC 2021

I personally vote for irc.  Perhaps via Libera.

What are some example vibrant  technical communities on matrix? I’ve
experienced such on irc but less so via more recent / newer platforms

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 8:57 AM Ben Gamari <ben at> wrote:

> Hi all,
> As you may have heard the Freenode IRC network, long the home of #ghc
> and several other prominent Haskell channels, appears to be in the
> middle of a rather nasty hostile takeover [1,2,3,4]. As a consequence,
> it seems it will be necessary to migrate the #ghc community elsewhere.
> The next question is, of course, where will this be. One option is
> Liberachat, the spiritual successor of Freenode. However, in recent
> years I have also heard an increasingly loud choir of users,
> contributors, and potential-contributors note how archane IRC feels when
> compared to other modern chat platforms. Using IRC effectively in a
> collaborative environment essentially requires that all parties use a
> bouncer; however, this is (understandably) isn't something that most users
> are willing to do.
> Consequently, I think it would be wise to expand our search space to
> include other FOSS platforms. At the moment, I can see the following
> options:
>  1. Remain on IRC and move to Liberachat, the spiritual successor of
>     Freenode
>  2. Remain on IRC and move to OFTC, another widely used network
>  3. Move to [Matrix]
>  4. Move to [Zulip]
> My sense is that of the non-IRC options Matrix is the truest successor
> to IRC, being a federated protocol with a wide array of (if somewhat
> immature) clients. I know some of our contributors already use it and in
> principle one could configure an IRC-to-Matrix bridge for those existing
> contributors who would rather continue using IRC.
> Zulip, while also being FOSS, is far more centralized than Matrix and
> appears to be more of a chat web application than an open protocol.
> Do you know of any other options? Thoughts?
> Cheers,
> - Ben
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