GHC and the future of Freenode
carter.schonwald at gmail.com
Wed May 19 15:48:55 UTC 2021
I personally vote for irc. Perhaps via Libera.
What are some example vibrant technical communities on matrix? I’ve
experienced such on irc but less so via more recent / newer platforms
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 8:57 AM Ben Gamari <ben at well-typed.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> As you may have heard the Freenode IRC network, long the home of #ghc
> and several other prominent Haskell channels, appears to be in the
> middle of a rather nasty hostile takeover [1,2,3,4]. As a consequence,
> it seems it will be necessary to migrate the #ghc community elsewhere.
> The next question is, of course, where will this be. One option is
> Liberachat, the spiritual successor of Freenode. However, in recent
> years I have also heard an increasingly loud choir of users,
> contributors, and potential-contributors note how archane IRC feels when
> compared to other modern chat platforms. Using IRC effectively in a
> collaborative environment essentially requires that all parties use a
> bouncer; however, this is (understandably) isn't something that most users
> are willing to do.
> Consequently, I think it would be wise to expand our search space to
> include other FOSS platforms. At the moment, I can see the following
> 1. Remain on IRC and move to Liberachat, the spiritual successor of
> 2. Remain on IRC and move to OFTC, another widely used network
> 3. Move to [Matrix]
> 4. Move to [Zulip]
> My sense is that of the non-IRC options Matrix is the truest successor
> to IRC, being a federated protocol with a wide array of (if somewhat
> immature) clients. I know some of our contributors already use it and in
> principle one could configure an IRC-to-Matrix bridge for those existing
> contributors who would rather continue using IRC.
> Zulip, while also being FOSS, is far more centralized than Matrix and
> appears to be more of a chat web application than an open protocol.
> Do you know of any other options? Thoughts?
> - Ben
> : https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409
> : https://fuchsnet.ch/freenode-resign-letter.txt
> : https://gist.github.com/aaronmdjones/1a9a93ded5b7d162c3f58bdd66b8f491
> : https://mniip.com/freenode.txt
> [Matrix]: https://www.matrix.org/
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