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[Carter Schonwald]

I decided to look up the difference between tortoise and turtles, and
apparently the former are land critters. Plus have elephant style hind feet
to support their high load/ weight among the larger species due to being
land focused.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/12/shell-game--how-to-tell-a-turtle-from-a-tortoise/


So there’s a cute stable under load angle there ;) at least for a tortoise
/ land turtle angle

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:08 PM John Cotton Ericson
<John.Ericson at obsidian.systems> wrote:

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> On 9/2/20 11:47 AM, Ben Gamari wrote:
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> Richard Eisenberg <rae at richarde.dev> <rae at richarde.dev> writes:
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> I'm oddly drawn to the idea of a turtle -- except that turtles are
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> In general I'm rather neutral on the logo question. There is a fine line
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> Logos aside, I do feel the need to correct the record here: you
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