Default options for -threaded
lonetiger at gmail.com
Mon Oct 10 10:34:14 UTC 2016
Oh, this is surprising, I must admit I haven't tried forkIO, but with
forkOS is doesn't move the threads across capabilities.
Do you know if this is by design or a bug?
On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Eric Seidel <eric at seidel.io> wrote:
> I would prefer keeping -N1 as a default, especially now that the number
> of capabilities can be set at runtime. Programs can then use the more
> common -j flag to enable parallelism.
> Regarding -qa, I was experimenting with it over the summer and found its
> behavior a bit surprising. It did prevent threads from being moved
> between capabilities, but it also forced all of the threads (created
> with forkIO) to be *spawned* on the same capability, which was
> unexpected. So -N -qa was, in my experience, equivalent to -N1!
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016, at 09:55, Ben Gamari wrote:
> > lonetiger at gmail.com writes:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > A user on https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/11054 has asked why
> > > -N -qa isn’t the default for -threaded.
> > >
> > I'm not sure that scheduling on all of the cores on the user's machine by
> > default is a good idea, especially given that our users have
> > learned to expect the existing default. Enabling affinity by default
> > seems reasonable if we have evidence that it helps the majority of
> > applications, but we would first need to introduce an additional
> > flag to disable it.
> > In general I think -N1 is a reasonable default as it acknowledges the
> > fact that deploying parallelism is not something that can be done
> > blindly in many (most?) applications. To make effective use of
> > parallelism the user needs to understand their hardware, their
> > application, and its interaction with the runtime system and configure
> > the RTS appropriately.
> > Of course, this is just my two-cents.
> > Cheers,
> > - Ben
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