[Haskell-beginners] trying to install libraries for Haskell School of Expression

Mon Mar 2 13:06:22 UTC 2015

PS: Did you mean stackage .ORG not .COM

On 2 March 2015 at 13:04, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:

> Plunk! (penny drops)
> I get it...now that is truly the icing on the cabal-hell free cake!
> Thanks again Julian.
>
>
> On 2 March 2015 at 12:48, Julian Birch <julian.birch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you go to www.stackage.com/lts/1.10, you'll find a hoogle search box.
>> It'll give you search results for everything in LTS 1.10.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What does that do for me within LTS confines? I know Hoogle, but I don't
>>> understand what you mean by "they run a hoogle for the exact version,
>>> with every library." ...I just want to understand so I can be as excited as
>>> everybody else right now! LOL :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 March 2015 at 12:34, Julian Birch <julian.birch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It gets better: they run a hoogle for the exact version, with every
>>>> library. :)
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Took a while to sink in....DEF trying this out tonight
>>>>> Looks AWESOME if it does what it says!
>>>>> Getting excited about Haskell again.
>>>>> THANKS!!!! Yoohoo :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2 March 2015 at 12:10, Julian Birch <julian.birch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a small note: if you're suffering from cabal hell, LTS Haskell
>>>>>> may help you. I described how to use it here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.colourcoding.net/blog/archive/2015/02/22/hello-world-web-application-in-haskell.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope someone finds it useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Agreed. I will "finish" with a mild semi-demi-rant too regarding the
>>>>>>> assumption by a lot of posters that we are all academics with access to
>>>>>>> papers on this and that. I am not and I don't. If you cite a paper, make
>>>>>>> sure it's available to Joe Public please!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for only sticking to plain vanialla simple Haskell, yes, that
>>>>>>> works BUT there are some many great libraries that a real time
>>>>>>> savers...it's such a shame when they won't play well together!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, despite it all, tonight I will be hacking Haskell !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1 March 2015 at 19:27, DJ <jakep at arqux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Yeah. I think there are a lot of us out there. I won't rant (much)
>>>>>>>> here, because I hope to get some help from time to time. Alienating people
>>>>>>>> is not a good way to get help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are many things I like about the language, but I have always
>>>>>>>> been perplexed by the haskell ecosystem in a couple of ways. However good
>>>>>>>> and/or interesting a language might be, it is not possible to do meat and
>>>>>>>> potatoes development unless there is a good supply of packages/libraries.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My first problem was that I often just could not get stuff to
>>>>>>>> install. The second problem was documentation. I hope it has improved a
>>>>>>>> bit. I was always flabbergasted at the (apparent) belief that a few lines
>>>>>>>> of API documentation coughed out by haddock are enough. But that's all
>>>>>>>> there was in a lot of cases. That, and "refer to xxxx research paper" and
>>>>>>>> "figure it out from the types". Hah. Any math paper that consisted of just
>>>>>>>> the equations sorted in alphabetical order would not be well received, I
>>>>>>>> think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really admired that fact that Michael Snoyman wrote a book about
>>>>>>>> Yesod. For all I know he may not have kept the book up, but at least he
>>>>>>>> realized that people needed an explanation of how to use his software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, back to work. I am going to give haskell another try for
>>>>>>>> sure. It's just too tempting to give up on. If it doesn't work, the next
>>>>>>>> stop will be sml or ocaml.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - DJ -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 15-03-01 09:56 AM, emacstheviking wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   I feel your pain...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Confession: I abandoned Haskell two years ago because of
>>>>>>>>> frustration with cabal and hackage. I decided to get back to the language
>>>>>>>>> today, and to start with Haskell School of Expression. I immediately run
>>>>>>>>> into the problem that the first thing I try to install with cabal does not
>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  It is the same reason I have stopped using it. It's a real
>>>>>>>> shame. Those with better education and understanding than mine should be
>>>>>>>> concerned that the uptake of the language is stunted by its package manager.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I love Haskell. I have taught myself (the beginnings at least) of
>>>>>>>> group theory just to better comprehend the mindset of monads. For that
>>>>>>>> alone I am glad I learned Haskell as it has rekindled my interest in maths!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help. Please tell me things are not just as bad now
>>>>>>>>> as they were when I left ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  This mail seems to indicate to me that "cabal hell" is here for
>>>>>>>> some time to come...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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